Right, so when talk about “equality”, literally not even able-bodied people are equal at jobs or outcomes. Some people can lift heavier weights, some people do better on IQ tests, some people run faster, some people sing better. When we talk about equality, it’s never referring to ability to achieve something, because that equality does not exist.
When we speak of equality, we speak of the level of rights you deserve.
And not that it’s any of your business, but I was diagnosed with Asperger’s in 2002. I don’t bring it up in internet conversations partially because the TikTok self diagnosis wave has made it meaningless.
Oh, but they do! Look into the historical usage of these words. Both were used for the intellectually disabled.
Are you going to cancel the usage of idiot and stupid? Or are you going to accept that, like idiot and stupid, words change their meaning over time, and retard is one such word going under a change.
You are correct on “idiot”, you are wrong on “stupid”.
retard is one such word going under a change.
The evidence in the meme that started this conversation is that it is not undergoing a change.
Idiot is not longer used to refer to actual mental disability, the r-slur is. Maybe eventually the r-slur meaning will change. I don’t see any point in hypothesizing about the fuzzy future possibility of a words meaning, the only thing that matters is what the word means right now, in real life. Your position has no standing.
Hey, hold on now. You’re the only one who is making the connection that retard is explicitly referring to those with intellectual disabilities. Everyone else is using it in the meaning of they are stupid.
No, it is in fact likening the person that you’re insulting to someone with intellectual disabilities. Sorry goat, you don’t have a leg to stand on in this one. Best to just not.
Right, so when talk about “equality”, literally not even able-bodied people are equal at jobs or outcomes. Some people can lift heavier weights, some people do better on IQ tests, some people run faster, some people sing better. When we talk about equality, it’s never referring to ability to achieve something, because that equality does not exist.
When we speak of equality, we speak of the level of rights you deserve.
And not that it’s any of your business, but I was diagnosed with Asperger’s in 2002. I don’t bring it up in internet conversations partially because the TikTok self diagnosis wave has made it meaningless.
And what does this have to do with retard?
“Retard” is a slur that is mean to dehumanize - the association that a developmental disability makes you less than full human.
So is idiot. So is stupid. So is every single other insult.
Stupid and idiot do not target disabilities.
Oh, but they do! Look into the historical usage of these words. Both were used for the intellectually disabled.
Are you going to cancel the usage of idiot and stupid? Or are you going to accept that, like idiot and stupid, words change their meaning over time, and retard is one such word going under a change.
You are correct on “idiot”, you are wrong on “stupid”.
The evidence in the meme that started this conversation is that it is not undergoing a change.
Idiot is not longer used to refer to actual mental disability, the r-slur is. Maybe eventually the r-slur meaning will change. I don’t see any point in hypothesizing about the fuzzy future possibility of a words meaning, the only thing that matters is what the word means right now, in real life. Your position has no standing.
Hey, hold on now. You’re the only one who is making the connection that retard is explicitly referring to those with intellectual disabilities. Everyone else is using it in the meaning of they are stupid.
No, it is in fact likening the person that you’re insulting to someone with intellectual disabilities. Sorry goat, you don’t have a leg to stand on in this one. Best to just not.