Luis Chamberlain sent out the modules changes today for the Linux 6.6 merge window. Most notable with the modules update is a change that better builds up the defenses against NVIDIA’s proprietary kernel driver from using GPL-only symbols. Or in other words, bits that only true open-source drivers should be utilizing and not proprietary kernel drivers like NVIDIA’s default Linux driver in respecting the original kernel code author’s intent.

Back in 2020 when the original defense was added, NVIDIA recommended avoiding the Linux 5.9 for the time being. They ended up having a supported driver several weeks later. It will be interesting to see this time how long Linux 6.6+ thwarts their kernel driver.

  • @Tetsuo@jlai.lu
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    721 year ago

    Just a perspective on why people would support NVIDIA here:

    • They don’t believe in copyright law so they don’t mind whoever infringe on them. Especially since here it would make the proprietary driver work better.

    • They do care about copyright law but think having a working driver outweighs respecting them.

    Not my opinion here just saying that for some people usability trumps any other aspects.

    • Solar Bear
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      1001 year ago

      They don’t believe in copyright law so they don’t mind whoever infringe on them. Especially since here it would make the proprietary driver work better.

      I don’t believe in copyright law, but I especially don’t believe in partially enforced copyright law. Nvidia doesn’t get to use copyright to protect their proprietary code while infringing on the copyright of FOSS.

    • @LeFantome@programming.dev
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      61 year ago

      Good read. I think the root is simply, don’t care about the rights of others if it is going to cost them something personally.

    • @BaconIsAVeg@lemmy.ml
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      -531 year ago

      Also, some of us are using Nvidia because we rely on software that doesn’t work on AMD. I really enjoy using Linux, but if it’s going to make my life difficult I’ll go back to using Windows with WSL.

      I agree Nvidia should resolve the licensing issues, but man GPL zealots get a such a raging hard-on for anything Nvidia related it’s funny to watch.

      • Semperverus
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        441 year ago

        Them becoming raging zealots is kind of the only realistic way to defend the GPL though. If they don’t, it’s just going to get treated like toilet paper. I’d much rather have the angry hate mob than to be disrespected by big companies who can otherwise just get away with whatever they want.

        • @BURN@lemmy.world
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          -431 year ago

          And I’d like hardware that works, and proprietary drivers are really the only way that happens

            • cynetri (he/any)
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              -91 year ago

              Not to knock on your point but the AMD drivers on Linux don’t support hardware video encoding unfortunately, so technically it’s not full-featured

          • @Nibodhika@lemmy.world
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            161 year ago

            Why do you think that? Companies can open source their drivers at will, in fact at this point NVIDIA is the only major player in GPU market who hasn’t done this, what do you think makes this particular hardware so special that needs a closed source driver when every other competitor doesn’t? In fact what could possibly be the reason for a driver to need to be closed source?

      • @priapus@sh.itjust.works
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        381 year ago

        It’s not going to effect you. No distro is going to ship a kernel that doesn’t work with the Nvidia driver, besides maybe some rolling ones, in which case you can just use the LTS kernel. This is drama between Nvidia and the rest of the kernel maintainers, and Nvidia will update their driver to deal with it, as they have done in the past.

        Shitting on people who care about FOSS because they don’t want to see massive companies get away with blatant copyright infringement is crazy.

      • Or maybe we should keep companies, which rake in billions of dollars, to a much higher standard??

        Nvidia could be better at open-sourcing their stuff. But they don’t. Blame them, not GPL.

        • @BaconIsAVeg@lemmy.ml
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          -11 year ago

          3D rendering software using iRay. I’ve started trying to learn Blender, but I’ve still got thousands spent on assets and hardware which means I’m not going to run out tomorrow and pickup a new card. It all works fine under Wine, but the amount of Nvidia hate on here is just tiring.

          • @Zucca@sopuli.xyz
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            1 year ago

            So you use iRay as the rendering engine for Blender? And (I’m assuming a lot here) iRay doesn’t use CUDA, OpenCL etc, but straight talks to the GPU via graphics drivers, thus having hardware depency for nvidia GPU?