• TurboTurbo
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    321 year ago

    I was exited for this phone, but as I said in another thread: I am a bit disappoited about the CPU and the substantial price hike, but most of all aqout the size increase. Is there any market research at all indicating that customers want 6"+ displays?

    • Irina
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      371 year ago

      Is there any market research at all indicating that customers want 6"+ displays?

      Unfortunately, yes. People who buy smaller phones are the people who buy a new phone less often, and small phones tend to sell worse than the big models (see S10e, iPhone 12(?) Mini) so don’t get renewed. Would be nice if they did.

      • @NiklzNDimz@beehaw.org
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        131 year ago

        It’s so frustrating that this is true. I use devices until they’re dead or at risk of serious compromise before getting another, but the only options are ones that I can’t even hold comfortably with one hand. I’m seriously considering the Jelly 2 at this point.

      • DJDarren
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        61 year ago

        I picked up a 13 Mini back in March, and will ride this bad boy for as long as I can, in the hope that Apple eventually release another Mini model.

        So perhaps it’s true that we hold onto our little phones for longer, primarily because we’re waiting for another little phone to come along.

        • @sparkl_motion@beehaw.org
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          41 year ago

          This is so true. I had a 12 mini and upgraded to the 13 mini in December. The battery is better, and I plan on keeping this until the next mini phone arrives. (If any)

      • @HumbertTetere@feddit.de
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        31 year ago

        For the FP4 they said one of the reasons they remove the aux input was that more people asked them to reduce the size of their phone than to keep the input.

    • @Ilandar@aussie.zone
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      151 year ago

      The CPU choice is great, why are you disappointed with it? It’s the reason they can offer a minimum of 8 years of support on this model.

        • @Ilandar@aussie.zone
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          171 year ago

          Unfortunately I think a lot of people just have zero understanding of how the smartphone industry works. They think small manufacturers like Fairphone just have free reign to get whatever parts they want, offer updates for however long they want, etc.

          The reality is that Fairphone have to find a way to work within the system that has been created by big tech. That means selecting parts based on their suitability for the long-term support goals they have. It’s one of the reasons why the specs are mid-range, because these parts stay in circulation for longer. For example, the 4 had a very generic 60 Hz IPS notch display because it was a widely used panel within the industry at the time. Now that higher refresh rate OLEDs have become more common on mid-range devices, Fairphone has been able to put one into the 5.

        • Square Singer
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          31 year ago

          You have a Qualcomm QCM 6490? Google told me, there is basically no phone out there that uses it, because it’s an IoT SoC, not one made for phones.

              • bbbhltz
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                11 year ago

                I live in France, I wanted a phone with buttons that wasn’t just an ODM with a different logo on it. It is an interesting company. I’ve had some contact with them. They are legit going to pull out of China and move production back to France. They uphold their 5 year warranty promise as well.

                And, they update their stuff. I’m on Android 13 and apparently older devices are still receiving updates too.

                  • bbbhltz
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                    11 year ago

                    It would be pretty low-key. I wouldn’t want to pry this phone open and then glue it back together. Fairphones are supposed to be rather easy to repair.

    • Square Singer
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      81 year ago

      With you on almost all points. Only the size didn’t actually increase. The phone’s dimensions are exactly the same. Only the weight went up a bit. The screen size was increased by using up more of the phone’s front side.

      The phone is still a massive brick.

    • @noodlejetski@beehaw.org
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      51 year ago

      substantial price hike

      it’s €50 more expensive than the FP4 with the same RAM/storage configuration on its release (€650 fot 8 GB of RAM and 256 GB of storage).

      • @srecko@lemm.ee
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        11 year ago

        Also it’s 3x cheaper than my pentium that i bought in 1997 and it has 3000x less ram than this. I know that we don’t have that kind of exponential growth of hardware like we had 10 years ago, but still there is progress and it’s expected to have a better product for the same price each generation.

    • Justin
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      21 year ago

      I get that they wanted to increase the battery and put out a new cpu, but I’m disappointed they’re not offering any camera or screen upgrades for my Fairphone 4.

      • @Ilandar@aussie.zone
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        101 year ago

        Were you actually expecting that? No manufacturer has ever created an upgradeable smartphone, let alone one as small as Fairphone. The Phonebloks concept died ages ago.

        The situation with the camera on the Fairphone 3 was unique and mainly in response to problems with the original module. It shouldn’t be taken as evidence that they have the ability to do this with every edition of the Fairphone, or extend upgrades to other areas like the display.

        • Justin
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          11 year ago

          Fair enough. Framework is definitely able to do those sorts of upgrades, but laptops are a lot more standardized than phones.

          • @Ilandar@aussie.zone
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            11 year ago

            That’s the focus of Framework’s business. Fairphone is a lot more focused on improving working conditions, pay rates, reducing environmental footprint, etc. The modular design is really more of a side-effect of that last bit rather than the reason the company exists.