• Quokka
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      11 year ago

      And they are a part of our country and should be counted.

      Things sure do look rosier if we ignore the shit aspects.

      • @foo@programming.dev
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        21 year ago

        But it’s not like for like. Misusing statistics like you are doing doesn’t help the conversation it just makes you look ignorant.

        When you include someone who works 10 hours a week against a minister who is responsible for a department that manages thousands of people it just makes you look small minded and, quite frankly, not knowledgeable enough to join the conversation.

        • Quokka
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          11 year ago

          When you realise that some people work 10 hours a week because it’s all they can, it makes you look out of touch.

          Underemployment is a huge issue.

        • @Fraction9869@aussie.zone
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          11 year ago

          Whoa bud, there’s a heap of nuance here and accusing someone of misusing stats rather than presenting under a different context doesn’t help anyone.

          If we only count full time workers we are ignoring under employed, volunteers, people whose circumstances prevent them from working full time. All these people can provide a benefit to society, whether it’s raising family, caring for elderly, volunteering at their local sports club or men’s shed, etc… Your position seems to be saying their value to society is zero. I would put it to you that you that your way of representing the stats doesn’t reflect the nation as a whole.

          Another question to ask when counting the rate of income increase is also where the poverty line comes into it. If you say poverty line is $30K (I haven’t looked this up) then $50K income is only $20 on making your life better, and $230K is still $200k, so we are back to 10x on income to improve your life.