Literally can’t debate with you guys because you straight out refuse to believe any evidence presented to you and just base your opinions on anecdotal evidence and individual incidents. If those stats are made up then provide a better source that backs you up.
I don’t know how to break this to you, but you don’t have any data at all. Please do link it here for me if you do, though. I’d love to see what you think is “data”. If it’s Tesla’s EOQ slides, I’ll at least have got some great laughs out of this thread.
I’m basing my view on the only data that I’m aware of and it’s linked above. You might not like the source of this data and that’s fair but you not liking it is not evidence to the contrary. Even this article that refutes those stats doesn’t provide any significant evidence that Tesla autopilot/FSD is more dangerous than a human driver. You can focus on individual incidents all day but what truly matters is the big picture and wether on average it’s safer than a human driver or not and currently it seems that at worse it’s about on par with humans and thus it’s just a matter of time untill it’s better. A lot better.
I have no dog in this fight and I’m fully willing to grant that the data Tesla hands out is very likely more or less misleading but that still doesn’t make my basic argument wrong which is that Teslas and their driver assist systems aren’t inherently any more dangerous than the competition. Tesla just gets way more attention in the media.
Literally can’t debate with you guys because you straight out refuse to believe any evidence presented to you and just base your opinions on anecdotal evidence and individual incidents. If those stats are made up then provide a better source that backs you up.
You seem to be confusing evidence with marketing. That’s your problem. If you actually owned one, you’d know I was right.
That’s anecdotal evidence. There’s nothing scientific about sample of one.
I don’t know how to break this to you, but you don’t have any data at all. Please do link it here for me if you do, though. I’d love to see what you think is “data”. If it’s Tesla’s EOQ slides, I’ll at least have got some great laughs out of this thread.
I’m basing my view on the only data that I’m aware of and it’s linked above. You might not like the source of this data and that’s fair but you not liking it is not evidence to the contrary. Even this article that refutes those stats doesn’t provide any significant evidence that Tesla autopilot/FSD is more dangerous than a human driver. You can focus on individual incidents all day but what truly matters is the big picture and wether on average it’s safer than a human driver or not and currently it seems that at worse it’s about on par with humans and thus it’s just a matter of time untill it’s better. A lot better.
I have no dog in this fight and I’m fully willing to grant that the data Tesla hands out is very likely more or less misleading but that still doesn’t make my basic argument wrong which is that Teslas and their driver assist systems aren’t inherently any more dangerous than the competition. Tesla just gets way more attention in the media.
Of course you link Brad’s bullshit. Man I just love it.
The data that exists is the standing general order data which shows Tesla absolutely sucks at life. Period.