• moody
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    7 days ago

    Nobody should expect a product to function reasonably out of the box. That would be insane, right?

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      6 days ago

      If you want your TV to have an audio system on par with the 4k OLED display it’s going to cost twice as much and weigh three hundred pounds. And be gargantuan. Speakers need space to move air and resonate.

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        6 days ago

        I don’t need high-powered, audiophile-grade surround speakers. Just maybe something a little better than a landline phone. There’s a pretty wide spectrum, and TVs come with shit tier audio. They don’t have to, but they do.

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          6 days ago

          That’s what they sell sound bars for. They even have brackets to hand the sound bar from your tv or wall mount. Putting that in every tv adds a hundred bucks for hardware not everyone will use.

          “One size fits all” sucks, it’s better to offer a modular system that people can adapt to their needs and situation. It requires a tiny bit of extra effort but plenty of retailers will do the thinking for you too if you pay them.

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            6 days ago

            It doesn’t need to be one size fits all though. Currently one size fits few, when a few extra bucks could make it one size fits most.

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              6 days ago

              Currently it’s a basic starting point that they fully expect users to augment with their sound solution of choice. This is fine. I don’t want to pay more for my next television because you’re too lazy to figure out what the sockets on the back are for.

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      6 days ago

      It does function reasonably. It plays audio. That is all it needs to do. If you want high quality sound, but a device that specializes in sound.

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        6 days ago

        My ass plays sound too, but nobody want to pay to hear it.

        They may as well just sell them without speakers at all. I don’t need specifixally high quality sound, just not-garbage sound.

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          6 days ago

          Are you willing to pay through the nose?

          Getting decent audio out of a TV with basically no bezel is a hard engineering problem. Read: expensive.

          There are some crazy schemes that have been tried, like embedding a piezioelectric layer on top of the display, but the reality is no one wants to pay a grand or two for that when they could just plug in a soundbar. What TV makers should really do is bundle soundbars with the TV in a combo pack, which I think they already (sometimes) do.

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            6 days ago

            Getting decent audio out of a TV with basically no bezel

            That’s part of the problem, isn’t it? They’re trying to make TVs into an art piece instead of a functional appliance.

            We were ok with fatass CRT sets when that’s all that was available. When LCD became standard, most people were happy about that. Now that bezel-less TVs are a thing, apparently we can no longer go back to anything but a 65" iPad.

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              6 days ago

              bezel-less

              This is fine with OLEDs and future(?) emissive displays TBH. They don’t need a thick bezel for much of anything, and thinning them out saves on materials/shipping weight up to a point.

              Edge-lit LCDs were kind of an insane fad, but… outside low-end PC monitors, that’s mostly over.