• rumimevlevi
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    1 day ago

    Good against zionist propaganda but won’t stop the killing and genocide. It is also important to mention those ex leader war crimes to not make it look natanyaho is the only problem and that when he dies palestinain will be free

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      Yeah this is a big distinction I always try to make clear. I blame Putin for the war in Ukraine, I blame Israel for the genocide in Gaza.

      Whilst I believe you could arguably replace Putin with someone who would be better and over time undo what Putin did, I think Netanyahu would likely be replaced with someone just as bad.

      Not quite as black and white as that, but in general that’s the sentiment.

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        I think it’s important to note that people can atone for their mistakes.

        That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be tried for crimes they’ve committed, or that they shouldn’t be shuttered away from the better society they might help create.

        But… there should allowances for letting them help fix the mistakes they’ve made. Not in the same capacity they had before, not in any kind of direct leadership role… but to advise as just how much they’ve fucked up and how they got to that point.

        Any solution that’s lasting and positive is going to come from collective action and collective knowledge. The voices for progress and equity will always have to outweigh the voices for war and megalomania, being able to learn from those with experience with the latter is necessary to overcome them.

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          15 hours ago

          Absolutely. I don’t blame the children of Israel at all for what’s happening, and they shouldn’t be punished for it in 10 years (or now) because of the mistakes of their parents. My reasoning for the distinction is that if we focus on blaming the current administration, the “solution” will seem like we just need to replace who’s in charge and that everything would be good. But I very much doubt that would help, since hate for Palestinians is very much ingrained in Israeli society and that needs to be taken very seriously when considering how to move forwards.

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            1 hour ago

            Yeah, I think I commented in the wrong place. It wasn’t really related to your specific point. The overall problem has become systemic (over the last seventy years), so a solution doesn’t come from just one or two actions.