An actual argument I recently saw:

Person B: “Any site which contains slurs against trans people in its sign up process is unreliable” (was referring to k!wifarms)

Person A: “Slurs aren’t considered bad in most countries”

Person B: “That doesn’t justify their usage. For example, conversion therapy isn’t considered bad or banned in most countries, that doesn’t mean conversion therapy is justified or good.”

Person A: “What are you talking about? Conversion therapy is banned in most countries”

Person B: “Shows a diagram showing that conversion therapy is only banned in a handful of countries”

Person A: “I mean in most civilized countries”

I’ve seen lots of other people refer to countries as civilized or uncivilized in similar contexts. Is this generally considered to be racist?

  • Sunsofold
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    7 hours ago

    Less racist in the modern sense, more profoundly stupid and racist in the archaic sense.

    Civilized coutry is a redundant phrase if taken literally. A country is a territory and the associated state. You can’t have a state (political structure) without being ‘civilized.’ (participating in some kind of civic process) They are using civilized in a manner akin to how people used ‘white’ many years ago, referring to acceptability rather than color. e.g. The oft noted ‘Irish and jews weren’t white.’ In that context it seems more of a sign of lack of critical thinking than colorism or essentialism.