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  • squiblet
    6•1 year ago

    Also, spam filters are trained by user response. Guess what personality type/computer education level is more likely to hit “REPORT SPAM” button versus the more technologically sophisticated and patient methods of deleting an email, unsubscribing, or filtering out, and how that may relate to their political party.

    • meat_popsicle
      31•1 year ago

      I work in IT and hit Spam on everything I perceive as spam.

      Poison all the data and fuck spammers straight to hell, tyvm.

      • squiblet
        -15•1 year ago

        I’ve seen some people deal with newsletters they signed up for that way and it’s unarguably a misuse and abuse of the system. “I don’t want these messages any longer” is not the same as unsolicited or abusive mail. For instance I see a small chocolate company and a granola company in my spam folder in gmail. Do they “spam”? No, there’s a really huge difference between e-mail marketing and spam. It sounds like what you ‘perceive’ as spam is based on not really knowing what it is.

        Poison all the data

        Is that some juvenile badassery or something?

        fuck spammers straight to hell, tyvm.

        yes, fuck spammers but not small companies doing email marketing. Email marketing is the only effective way to grow a business online these days without paying some giant fuckstick corporation like Facebook, so I don’t believe what you stated is accomplishing what seems to be your goal. If you make email marketing unusable, that helps google sell ads.

        • @BaconIsAVeg@lemmy.mlEnglish
          22•1 year ago

          Email marketing is the only effective way to grow a business online these days

          Sorry, but I call horse_shit_ on this. If the only way you can grow your business is to shovel your garbage into my personal inbox, then it’s spam, plain and simple.

          If I have to give you my e-mail address to order something and you default “sign up for more of my bullshit” to checked, then fuck you.

          • @salton@reddthat.com
            7•1 year ago

            I see this as “Did I intend to get this email?” Then nothing happens. If I did not intent to receive it then it is spam because I never intentionally subscribe to any marketing emails.

        • some_guy
          6•1 year ago

          You’ve never done something and thought “oh hell this isn’t want I signed up for”?

          misuse and abuse

          🤣

          Do you, by chance, run a business that sends out mass email spam?

          • squiblet
            -1•1 year ago

            No, I sure don’t. I don’t have anything to do with companies that do legitimate email marketing, either. But I am able to understand the difference.

            I’m not sure what the stupid emoji is supposed to mean, by the way.

              • squiblet
                0•1 year ago

                So you’re someone who doesn’t understand the difference between newsletters and spam, and uses stupid emoji to make your points?

                  • squiblet
                    1•1 year ago

                    no, it was actually a way of informing you that you seem to be immature and not interacting with people in a productive way.

        • @Durotar@lemmy.ml
          3•1 year ago

          No, there’s a really huge difference between e-mail marketing and spam.

          From Wikipedia:

          Spamming is the use of messaging systems to send multiple unsolicited messages (spam) to large numbers of recipients for the purpose of commercial advertising.

          So yeah, what you described is spam by definition.

          • squiblet
            1•1 year ago

            No, the difference i have noted is solicited vs unsolicited. If you sign up for something it is solicited as based on the definition of the word. Deciding you no longer wish to receive it is different than if you never signed up in the first place. Amazing how confused people are about this.

    • Buelldozer
      6•1 year ago

      unsubscribing

      Great way to show an e-mail spammer that the address works and is monitored by a human. Standard IT guidance for at least two decades has been to NOT use unsubscribe.

      and how that may relate to their political party.

      If there is a correlation between tech savvy and political party it’s so small as to be meaningless.

      • squiblet
        2•1 year ago

        That’s for actual spam, not merely a newsletter or marketing email you don’t wish to receive any longer. The distinction is my entire point. If you signed up for something and don’t wish to receive it any longer, that’s not spam.

        Older people are more likely to be republicans. Older people are also less likely to be technologically sophisticated.