This is completely counter productive to growing Lemmy. I absolutely despise discord. Look at the network traffic it generates and tell me wtf they are doing. They won’t tell you. Their business model will leave you completely dumbfounded as to how they exist. Everything shared on the platform is lost in a black hole unavailable to the outside world and everything shared is a privacy nightmare. Posting this, pinning it here, and locking it is one of the biggest trolls possible. It pisses me off every time I log in. “Everyone else does it” is the excuse of idiots. Discord makes absolutely no sense to anyone that actually cares to look into it, read the user agreement, and ask sane questions about what they are doing.

  • AlmightySnoo 🐢🇮🇱🇺🇦
    26•1 year ago

    What people don’t get is that self-hosting a Discord-like is not a solution. The idea is to have a fallback in case the server goes down, and Discord serves that role well.

              • AlmightySnoo 🐢🇮🇱🇺🇦
                0•1 year ago

                Why does it matter?

                Because it needs to be DDOS-resistant and be able to handle at least 128k users. Otherwise it’s not a fallback in case lemmy.world is targeted again. There are groups who hate LW and still want to take it down, if they know that their alternative communication channel is also some other self-hosted service they’re going to target that one too.

                So please list one instance which would satisfy these criteria.

                • @Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de
                  8•1 year ago

                  Isn’t content from Mastodon federated across the instances? Meaning that LW could just open an account on any Mastodon server (not their own, to avoid to handle both at the same time in case of issues)?

                  Or are you saying that Mastodon is as DDoS vulnerable as Lemmy, making the server that would host the LW account a DDoS target?

                  Edit: you edited in the meantime, but I guess our exchange still makes sense

                  • AlmightySnoo 🐢🇮🇱🇺🇦
                    -2•1 year ago

                    So what I understand is that you’re proposing to play cat and mouse with DDOS attackers then?

                    Or are you saying that Mastodon is as DDoS vulnerable as Lemmy, making the server that would host the LW account a DDoS target?

                    Exactly.

        • Draconic NEOEnglish
          9•1 year ago

          Don’t we already have a Matrix Channel for that? Even if they wanted a lemmy.world specific Space it’s still Far better than proprietary Discord. I mean isn’t it already encouraged to link Matrix for secure messaging, why not just use a Space on Matrix for lemmy.world support and communication.

      • @douglasg14b@lemmy.world
        2•1 year ago

        Discord is a chat program that usually devolves into garbage memes and off-topic nonsense instantly.

        This… Is somehow different from Lemmy other than the chat vs forum aspect?

    • Draconic NEOEnglish
      13•1 year ago

      Uh He never said it has to be self-hosted though, so this already sounds like a strawman argument. Only one who has mentioned self hosting in this thread is you.

      People want something that is secure and respects privacy, they could simply use the Matrix channel, or create their own Matrix space specific to lemmy.world , both of these would be better options for the users than to try and get them to use Discord which is a proprietary corporate service that is not only prone to security problems but also has some serious privacy concerns due to being corporate owned.