See you’re proving my point for me right now. You don’t even know me or any of my stances yet you assume because I have said I don’t agree with all the ideas on the left that I must be a Trumpy.
I am staunchly pro-choice. I’ve never been broken up with because of my political beliefs.
You seriously need to take a step back and reevaluate how you interact with people.
No, I did not assume. I read the part where you said you spent your entire life as a Democrat. That’s the past tense which means you no longer are.
Nobody kicked you out. You got upset when somebody pushed back. Just like now.
What opinion of yours got challenged enough that you left? Let’s hear it so we know if it’s bad enough to deserve whatever you got or you were unjustly maligned.
I’m not the guy you’re replying to and I am interested to hear his response, but also I’d like to point out that you jumped to conclusions faster than Superman can jump over a building. But hey what do I know? I’m just a libertarian minarchist. Personally, almost all of your purity tests are repugnant from my point of view.
No opinion of mine got challenged at all. There is no calm discussion with most Democrats. My mom is the only Democrat in my family that is even open to conversation with me on topics we disagree on. The majority simply scream or walk away the moment you say something they don’t agree with. I have my beliefs about certain things that don’t align with the lefts playbook. I have had lifelong friends (and family) stop speaking to me forever because I disagreed with them about one thing. We agreed on all other major political topics but they couldn’t stand my different opinion on one thing so they “kicked” me out of their group. They don’t want anyone with even remotely different thinking in their bubble. These are the same people who were 100% sure Kamala had 2024 in the bag. They built those garden walls a little too high and lost touch with reality.
I am friends with many people that I disagree with on a myriad of topics. I do not drop them as friends because we disagree on a few things because I’m not a child that views the world with this black and white/us vs them mentality. People are complex and to condemn anyone who doesn’t think exactly like me would unbelievably idiotic.
Your comments remain to be another prime example of this behavior. You don’t even know what I think about things and simply because you heard that I used to be a Democrat you have already started attacking me. Behavior like yours is precisely how the Democrats lost the 2024 election.
I am pro-choice. The government should have basically zero input on this. The only three people that should have anything to say about a pregnancy are the two people that caused it to happen and their doctor.
All for universal healthcare. Our current system is a bloated mess that actually ends up costing us more than universal healthcare would.
Don’t care about gay marriage whatsoever. Let people marry whatever consenting adult they want. The government should have basically zero say about this.
I believe in actual freedom of speech full stop. Not like Elon Musk who claims he’s a free speech absolutionist, but he immediately removes people he doesn’t like from twitter. Fuck that guy forever.
I believe everyone has a right to defend themselves. Guns or otherwise. We have a rampant mental health problem and blaming whatever tool the crazy person uses is a massive waste of time and energy. We need to be addressing the root cause.
I think taxes should increase as you go up in wealth. People struggling to keep a roof over their heads and feed themselves should essentially pay zero taxes and those who have three homes in 3 different countries need to be paying more.
Churches 100000000% need to be paying taxes and it’s a fucking joke that they still don’t.
We need to have term limits on all positions and a maximum age for all political positions. If we were smart enough to know that people under the age of 35 aren’t ready to run the country then we need to also agree that someone over the age of let’s say 70 is also too old to reasonably understand what the majority of the country needs or wants.
I can’t think of all the major political disagreements between the parties right now, but if you were to count them up the grand majority of my opinions fall into the “blue” side of things. I have never had any right leaning friends stop speaking to me for my various left leaning opinions, but I have had MANY left leaning people in my life completely cut me out of their lives immediately upon the first disagreement.
I am not the only person I know with those “mid-left” ideals that has found themselves similarly abandoned by the left. I’m no longer a Democrat because I will not associate myself with such a elitists group of close minded pricks. For completely different reasons I won’t associate with the religious conservative morons on the right either.
Because I don’t fully subscribe to either side I don’t have a “home” but I have only ever been shunned by Dems. Republicans has either been indifferent or open to conversation with me which is precisely how the Democrats lost 2024. They will likely continue to lose in the future unless the whole party makes some rather significant shifts.
None of your opinions are anything I really disagree with except the guns. You claim elitists turn you off but claim you know better than everybody. Your antagonism towards nearly everybody is why I wouldn’t like you, not your opinions. Maybe there are others like that that you blame differences of opinion for why you’re not in their lives anymore.
This is America we are discussing. On a worldwide political spectrum. Sure, definitely to the right of the central line but from the American perspective that’s as left as it gets.
The Democrat party is structured a lot like the Republican party at this point.
There’s a lot of old guard establishment members that were in Washington when Kennedy was shot, the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden. They’re old, they’re corrupt, the only thing they will ever vote for is the interests of large business. They have 100% control over party policy, what they actually vote for and do.
Then you’ve got the radical social progressives. They tend to either be college gender studies majors or you get into the Hollywood performative Prius driving types. They’re as uncompromising on their issues as the red hat crowd, they talk about men the same way MAGAts talk about Mexicans. They have basically no power over the way the party votes or behaves but they’ve got almost total control over the party’s voice and messaging.
Labor, once a mainstay of the Democrats, is unrepresented in Washington. The old guard establishment on both sides of the aisle are pro-corporation and anti-union, the right wing MAGAts are “the only ethical union is my union” and the far left are so used to taking clean running water, sewer, electricity and gasoline for granted that they ask questions like “Why should I have to pay to live?” The people who fix power lines, drill for oil, mine for coal, repair, maintain and operate power plants, water treatment plants, sewer systems, pave roads etc. are so invisible to them they think they’re already in that post-scarcity world.
So you’ve got a Democratic party that speaks for the feminists and votes for the Fortune 500. They don’t have much to say to or for me.
See you’re proving my point for me right now. You don’t even know me or any of my stances yet you assume because I have said I don’t agree with all the ideas on the left that I must be a Trumpy.
I am staunchly pro-choice. I’ve never been broken up with because of my political beliefs.
You seriously need to take a step back and reevaluate how you interact with people.
No, I did not assume. I read the part where you said you spent your entire life as a Democrat. That’s the past tense which means you no longer are.
Nobody kicked you out. You got upset when somebody pushed back. Just like now.
What opinion of yours got challenged enough that you left? Let’s hear it so we know if it’s bad enough to deserve whatever you got or you were unjustly maligned.
I’m not the guy you’re replying to and I am interested to hear his response, but also I’d like to point out that you jumped to conclusions faster than Superman can jump over a building. But hey what do I know? I’m just a libertarian minarchist. Personally, almost all of your purity tests are repugnant from my point of view.
Maybe you should look into egotistical altruism.
No opinion of mine got challenged at all. There is no calm discussion with most Democrats. My mom is the only Democrat in my family that is even open to conversation with me on topics we disagree on. The majority simply scream or walk away the moment you say something they don’t agree with. I have my beliefs about certain things that don’t align with the lefts playbook. I have had lifelong friends (and family) stop speaking to me forever because I disagreed with them about one thing. We agreed on all other major political topics but they couldn’t stand my different opinion on one thing so they “kicked” me out of their group. They don’t want anyone with even remotely different thinking in their bubble. These are the same people who were 100% sure Kamala had 2024 in the bag. They built those garden walls a little too high and lost touch with reality.
I am friends with many people that I disagree with on a myriad of topics. I do not drop them as friends because we disagree on a few things because I’m not a child that views the world with this black and white/us vs them mentality. People are complex and to condemn anyone who doesn’t think exactly like me would unbelievably idiotic.
Your comments remain to be another prime example of this behavior. You don’t even know what I think about things and simply because you heard that I used to be a Democrat you have already started attacking me. Behavior like yours is precisely how the Democrats lost the 2024 election.
I am pro-choice. The government should have basically zero input on this. The only three people that should have anything to say about a pregnancy are the two people that caused it to happen and their doctor.
All for universal healthcare. Our current system is a bloated mess that actually ends up costing us more than universal healthcare would.
Don’t care about gay marriage whatsoever. Let people marry whatever consenting adult they want. The government should have basically zero say about this.
I believe in actual freedom of speech full stop. Not like Elon Musk who claims he’s a free speech absolutionist, but he immediately removes people he doesn’t like from twitter. Fuck that guy forever.
I believe everyone has a right to defend themselves. Guns or otherwise. We have a rampant mental health problem and blaming whatever tool the crazy person uses is a massive waste of time and energy. We need to be addressing the root cause.
I think taxes should increase as you go up in wealth. People struggling to keep a roof over their heads and feed themselves should essentially pay zero taxes and those who have three homes in 3 different countries need to be paying more.
Churches 100000000% need to be paying taxes and it’s a fucking joke that they still don’t.
We need to have term limits on all positions and a maximum age for all political positions. If we were smart enough to know that people under the age of 35 aren’t ready to run the country then we need to also agree that someone over the age of let’s say 70 is also too old to reasonably understand what the majority of the country needs or wants.
I can’t think of all the major political disagreements between the parties right now, but if you were to count them up the grand majority of my opinions fall into the “blue” side of things. I have never had any right leaning friends stop speaking to me for my various left leaning opinions, but I have had MANY left leaning people in my life completely cut me out of their lives immediately upon the first disagreement.
I am not the only person I know with those “mid-left” ideals that has found themselves similarly abandoned by the left. I’m no longer a Democrat because I will not associate myself with such a elitists group of close minded pricks. For completely different reasons I won’t associate with the religious conservative morons on the right either.
Because I don’t fully subscribe to either side I don’t have a “home” but I have only ever been shunned by Dems. Republicans has either been indifferent or open to conversation with me which is precisely how the Democrats lost 2024. They will likely continue to lose in the future unless the whole party makes some rather significant shifts.
None of your opinions are anything I really disagree with except the guns. You claim elitists turn you off but claim you know better than everybody. Your antagonism towards nearly everybody is why I wouldn’t like you, not your opinions. Maybe there are others like that that you blame differences of opinion for why you’re not in their lives anymore.
since when are the democrats considered left… do you mean liberals?
This is America we are discussing. On a worldwide political spectrum. Sure, definitely to the right of the central line but from the American perspective that’s as left as it gets.
https://youtu.be/VYOjWnS4cMY
The Democrat party is structured a lot like the Republican party at this point.
There’s a lot of old guard establishment members that were in Washington when Kennedy was shot, the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden. They’re old, they’re corrupt, the only thing they will ever vote for is the interests of large business. They have 100% control over party policy, what they actually vote for and do.
Then you’ve got the radical social progressives. They tend to either be college gender studies majors or you get into the Hollywood performative Prius driving types. They’re as uncompromising on their issues as the red hat crowd, they talk about men the same way MAGAts talk about Mexicans. They have basically no power over the way the party votes or behaves but they’ve got almost total control over the party’s voice and messaging.
Labor, once a mainstay of the Democrats, is unrepresented in Washington. The old guard establishment on both sides of the aisle are pro-corporation and anti-union, the right wing MAGAts are “the only ethical union is my union” and the far left are so used to taking clean running water, sewer, electricity and gasoline for granted that they ask questions like “Why should I have to pay to live?” The people who fix power lines, drill for oil, mine for coal, repair, maintain and operate power plants, water treatment plants, sewer systems, pave roads etc. are so invisible to them they think they’re already in that post-scarcity world.
So you’ve got a Democratic party that speaks for the feminists and votes for the Fortune 500. They don’t have much to say to or for me.
Now theres a fuckin headline