Edit: I also just got banned for apparently being a troll. Me. Not the person they believe to be a dragon though.

  • @PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    468 days ago

    As stated elsewhere here, most people would not interpret “Don’t question people’s gender identity” as “Don’t say dragons aren’t real or that people can’t be dragons”.

    • @nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      28 days ago

      I disagree. It is a community for gender diverse folk and the rules are there to protect them. This is not about the dragon. It is about respecting someone’s identity. “Dragons aren’t real” in the context of someone identifying as a dragon is no different than a TERF telling a trans woman that trans women don’t exist. It it inherently questioning her identity, transphobic, and attacking her.

      Can you see how that would be problematic? I think anyone surpise pikachu’ed by this should consider learning how to be a better ally instead of thinking they can say hurtful stuff.

      • @PugJesus@lemmy.world
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        258 days ago

        I disagree.

        As I said, ‘most people would not interpret’, and there is certainly a large number of people who quite clearly and vocally did not interpret the rule in the way that it has been clarified.

        It it inherently questioning her identity,

        Yes, in this case, because dragons are literally not real.

        Questioning an identity that is at odds with reality is not a sin.

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          As i said, it’s not about drag. Regardless if you think drag is trolling, there are people who identity as fae/faerie. Are you going to tell them they don’t exist too?

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            As i said, it’s not about drag. Regardless if you think drag is trolling, there are people who identity as fae/faerie. Are you going to tell them they don’t exist too?

            If they mean ‘faerie’ as in ‘literally one of the fae folk’? Yes, this is not much of a surprise to anyone past the age of kindergarten, but the fae folk aren’t real either. Holy shit.

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            What does it mean to identify as a fae? Do they literally think they’re a fae from folklore?

            And to be clear, this is a genuine question.

            • copygirl
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              18 days ago

              I’m no authority to speak on this, but I can say (gender) identity and pronouns aren’t necessarily linked. Some people might lean into the fairy thing for their aesthetic or identity, others wouldn’t. Some might use fae/faer pronouns explicitly to break out of the gender binary / ternary, others might just find that these pronouns fit them. I hope someone with more knowledge on the matter could weigh on.

          • Rikudou_SageA
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            Not actively and unprompted, but since you’re asking: yes, fae aren’t real (and if we ever discover them hiding somewhere, I’ll happily apologise!).

            And no, I’m not a transphobe or whatever label you’re gonna try and put on me. But obvious trolls baiting people into getting banned, because dragons aren’t real no matter how you “identify”, are not a good look for you.

            Looks like you prefer trolls to people who actually care about trans issues, in which case: good luck with your communities!

        • Norah (pup/it/she)
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          -108 days ago

          Okay, time for me to throw my hat into the ring. Dogs/Puppies are real, are they not? I use pup/pup’s pronouns as my preferred pronouns. I identify strongly with canine-kind. For example, I have dysphoria about my lack of a tail.

          Will you respect my pronouns?

          BTW, Ada clarifying the rules made me feel comfortable changing my displayname to include my preferred pronouns, FWIW.

          • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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            -38 days ago

            PJ somehow thinks they are better than everyone else, also hates people he doesn’t understand. News at 11.

            God he’s just going mask off at full speed.