• @blackfire@lemmy.world
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    172 days ago

    This is kind of good news it means there is still a major alt to WhatsApp. Still my second to last app but it does have a lot of linux groups on there

      • @Khanzarate@lemmy.world
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        92 days ago

        Yes but that doesn’t mean they’re not important in ensuring there isn’t a messaging monopoly.

        Obviously in an ideal world we’d have multiple interconnected secure apps with some cross-platform interoperability, but until then I’ll settle for one government/corporation not having all of everyone’s private conversations.

      • @accideath@lemmy.world
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        72 days ago

        If Telegram is backdoored, not for Russia. While the founder and owner is Russian, him and the company left Russia in 2014 when they didn’t want to comply with their regime (I think. Don’t remember the details). The company is based in Dubai since 2017.

          • Rikudou_SageA
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            -22 days ago
            • it doesn’t have end-to-end encryption
            • Russia wants the data
            • @Zacryon@feddit.org
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              12 days ago

              It does. You need to enable it per chat but that’s far from difficult.

              Everyone wants messenger data. Doesn’t make it “100% backdoored”.

              • Rikudou_SageA
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                12 days ago

                Only for one-on-one chat. From what I’ve seen, most of the chats are group chats or rooms or whatever they’re called. No encryption at all, all your messages for any interested party with enough money to analyse.

                Frankly, there doesn’t need to be a backdoor, the architecture and security of the app are horrible.

                There’s simply no reason to not have e2e. Except if you want the data.

                • @Zacryon@feddit.org
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                  12 days ago

                  Yes, e2e is currently only for one-on-one chats available, that’s true.

                  The rest is on their servers. But they’re not making a secret out of that. They are pretty transparent about it as far as I can tell.

                  Yupp, that’s not a “backdoor” in that sense. Is there one for the encrypted chats?

                  I can think of a bunch of harmless reasons, why it can be advantageous to use unencrypted chats.