I hate how “anti-war” has been hijacked by these people to mean, let imperialist countries invade whoever they want with no consequences. (in the case of tankies, any imperialist country that isn’t in NATO).
I hate how “anti-war” has been hijacked by these people to mean, let imperialist countries invade whoever they want with no consequences. (in the case of tankies, any imperialist country that isn’t in NATO).
“Tankies” (leftist in general, who tends to be against war due to internationalism) see Ukraine for what it is, that is a proxy war between two part of the oligarchy that only profits the rich:
https://english.elpais.com/economy-and-business/2024-08-27/ukraine-and-gaza-wars-boost-the-value-of-major-arms-manufacturers.html
MAGAs (fascists) support russia because of ideological proximity. The US couped the USSR and empowered fascists, about 30 years before the USSR coup’ed the US and empowered fascists. Tables are turning, but nothing change.
Liberals are whining because ending the war would be bad for the nasdaq. They are (as usual) trying to equate leftists with litteral nazis. Better hitler than the popular front. The issue with centrists is that they are very permeable to jingoist propaganda. They probably were the one thinking saddam had weapons of mass destruction.
Meanwhile my friend in Kiev calls ukraine north korea. You know, coz they cannot leave.
Your description of the tankie position doesn’t explain why they call for Ukraine to surrender like Russia isn’t the aggressor. Leftists in general do realize it’s a proxy war like you said, but we call for the invader to stop invading. Because, you know… The victim of an invasion surrendering doesnt usually lead to good outcomes for the victim.
Germany attacked first during ww1 (and I should know, I’m Belgian) and yet the russian were totally justified in refusing to get butchered for the tsar.
And they paid the price in 1918 as the germans and allied just leagued against them instead.
What an insulting interpretation that yet again ignores Russian responsibility for this war. It was ONLY their decision.
The russian regime have been put there by the USA in the first place. They are not a democracy.
What do you mean?
If you keep feeding the troll we’ll end up with troll shit all over the lawn.
I mean the switch from internationalism to ultranationalism that took place in the 90ies with Yeltsin getting into power was cheered, orchestrated and supported by the western power. It was a coup. The state services were salvaged by multinational with the help of fascists, people starved.
Now that the russians are just doing fascist thing, the same western powers sees it as an opportunity to sell more weapons, which was basically the endgame all along. Thus the propaganda and censorship.