“Because in 2024, Ukraine is no longer facing Russia. Soldiers from North Korea are standing in front of Ukraine. Let’s be honest. Already in Ukraine, the Iranian ‘Shahedis’ are killing civilians absolutely openly, without any shame,” said Zaluzhny, adding that North Korean and Chinese weapons are flying into Ukraine. Zaluzhny urged Ukraine’s allies to draw the right conclusions. “It is still possible to stop it here, on the territory of Ukraine. But for some reason our partners do not want to understand this. It is obvious that Ukraine already has too many enemies. Ukraine will survive with technology, but it is not clear whether it can win this battle alone,” he said.

  • @NastyNative@mander.xyz
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    14 days ago

    I understand your point, and I agree that Russia shouldn’t be trusted. However, there are times when decisions must prioritize saving lives. If we claim to hold the moral high ground, it’s important to reflect on the following considerations.

    Throughout history, U.S. actions have led to devastating consequences for local populations. During the Gulf War in 1991, the U.S. encouraged Iraqis, particularly Shia and Kurds, to rise against Saddam Hussein but failed to provide any support, leaving them vulnerable to brutal retaliation. Similarly, after the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, many local allies were left behind, facing violence and death. These events underscore the need for accountability in international interventions. Since World War II, many conflicts seem driven more by economic and geopolitical interests than genuine causes, echoing General Eisenhower’s warning about the military-industrial complex’s unchecked influence.

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      I don’t know why you keep going back to US actions unrelated to Ukraine.

      I completely agree a lot of US foreign interference is done through greed, but this is not one of those instances.

        • @Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
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          I don’t, because it’s not directly relevant to the circumstance were talking about.

          “But America bad too” isn’t a reason to not help Ukraine fight off Russia.

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            02 days ago

            but are we really helping them by getting them killed? If we really wanted to help we would start diplomacy, take a good look at our past and don’t think we are so much better than Russia. We are not!

            If you want them to keep getting killed yes its irrelevant what the US did in the past. If you want peace we need to take a good look at our selves and work with Russia. You know Trump is going to work with Russia to stop this instead of the current administrator meat grinder strategy.

              • @NastyNative@mander.xyz
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                12 days ago

                I’m not saying to let Russia take over the country. Let the administrations iron it out with the Kremlin and put a stop to this cynical war.

                • @Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
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                  Lmfao, Russia has no interest in diplomacy, they illegal invaded Crimea and annexed it, and the west did nothing.

                  Big surprise they then invaded ALL of Ukraine, how can you possibly think diplomacy is going to work?

                  Cynical war indeed, that Russia started as a “special military exercise” and has consistently lied about to their people and abroad.

                  You’re delusional if you think Russia is coming to any diplomatic agreements in good faith.

                  • @NastyNative@mander.xyz
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                    12 days ago

                    I am not justifying Russia’s unjustifiable attack on Ukraine; I firmly believe they should withdraw and end the conflict. However, it’s important to recognize that Russia perceives itself as fighting a defensive war, much like the perspective you’ve expressed.

                    While we can debate the motives on both sides endlessly, the reality remains that innocent people are dying—not just soldiers but civilians, including the elderly and children, who are succumbing to preventable causes due to a lack of basic necessities. These are unnecessary and tragic losses a sin in the eyes of the lord.

                    It’s deeply troubling that such suffering continues because two powers cannot reach an agreement—one striving to reclaim a Soviet-era vision, and the other pursuing profit-driven interests. This cycle of violence and disregard for human life is a tragedy that must not be normalized.