• WillBalls
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    11 days ago

    The second age ended with the ending of the war of the last alliance, so Gandalf did arrive later, but not “long after”

    • @CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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      911 days ago

      I assume you forgot a “not” after the “but”. I just looked it up though, Gandalf left Valinor for Middle Earth around 1000 T.A. I don’t know about you, but I’d consider that “long after” the War of the Last Alliance.

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        11 days ago

        Huh I guess you’re right, my bad. 1000 years is definitely long for men, but I’d say midish for elves ¯\(ツ)

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          11 days ago

          I guess it depends. Elrond is around 7.000 years old when having this conversation with Gandalf, so 1.000 years might be like 10 years to a 70-year old. Arwen is less than 3.000 years old, so maybe 1.000 years to her is more like 10 years to someone in their late 20s (and as someone in their early 30s, that’s a damn long time)? To Galadriel or Cirdan on the other hand 1.000 years might just be like ”Damn, I slept in again, what age is it?“

          • WillBalls
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            310 days ago

            You raise a really good point on what the passage of time must feel like to young elves. I’d like to think that elves younger than 1000 years are treated with lots of eye rolls from their elders for brashness, similar to Treebeard telling Merry and Pippin to not be so hasty