Mitch McConell says the quiet part out loud.

Exact full quote from CNN:

“People think, increasingly it appears, that we shouldn’t be doing this. Well, let me start by saying we haven’t lost a single American in this war,” McConnell said. “Most of the money that we spend related to Ukraine is actually spent in the US, replenishing weapons, more modern weapons. So it’s actually employing people here and improving our own military for what may lie ahead.”

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/4085063

  • @socsa@lemmy.ml
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    611 months ago

    Russia openly states that their goal is the elimination of Ukrainian identity. Literally genocide. And here you are being smug about it, believing your edgy contrarian sentiment is justified by the evils of a country which is not even party to the war.

    Talk about rent free mind rot.

    • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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      5011 months ago

      Trying to rob the word genocide of all meaning in the way your doing serves only to trivialise actual genocide.

      • @socsa@lemmy.ml
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        11 months ago

        Actual genocide like forced deportation of children? Or do you require actual gas chambers before you care?

            • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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              5611 months ago

              What a shock, the person accusing other people of not caring about genocide can’t actually answer the question, because they don’t actually give a shit about genocides themselves, they just use it as an emotional cudgel to try and win debate points.

              • @socsa@lemmy.ml
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                It’s not that I can’t answer the question, or that I deny evidence of genocide in Ethiopia, China and Yemen. In fact, I want to make it very clear that only one of us in this conversation is a genocide denier. It’s that your attempt at deflecting to a completely unrelated topic is pathetic (and frankly lazy) whataboutism.

                More than anything, I don’t understand why so many leftists want to die on this particular hill. It just makes it feel like your stated values are merely ideological lip service.

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                  It was absolutely that you couldn’t answer the question; you know it, I know it, and everyone reading this knows it.

                  Just like you also know that trying to tar anyone who doesn’t believe any and all accusations of genocide, no matter how obviously bad faith, as a genocide denier is an obviously cynical and disingenuous rhetorical technique that doesn’t hold up to scrutiny, and which you wouldn’t be willing to be subject to yourself. Do you believe the claims of Donbas genocide? How about white farmer genocide in South Africa? How about White Genocide in America?

                  Nobody cares if you made up some stupid little name for it like whataboutism and declared it against the ‘rules’. We’re still going to point your obvious double standards as proof of your dishonesty

                • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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                  3111 months ago

                  How many people have been killed in the supposedly ongoing genocide in China?

                  You do have a properly sourced number, right?

                  So let’s see it.

        • silent_water [she/her]
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          3711 months ago

          removing children from a warzone isn’t forced deportation. those kids were returned when requested.

        • Flaps [he/him]
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          2711 months ago

          ‘Put the children back in the warzone! rage-cry Also let’s stop pretending the west is above that. Key difference is that we let the people fleeing western’ foreign policy’ drown in the mediterranian sea, rather than housing them.

        • Maoo [none/use name]
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          1611 months ago

          You should be angry at the propagandists that made you selectively trivialize genocide this way.