The only thing I like about Trump is exactly what so many empire managers hate about him: he gives the game away. He says the quiet parts out loud. He’s the only president who’ll openly boast that US troops are in Syria taking the oil or lament that they failed to take the oil from Venezuela, or just come right out and tell everyone he’s bought and owned by Zionist oligarchs.
Trump is the opposite of Obama, who was very skillful at putting a pretty face on the evil empire. Trump puts a very ugly face on a very ugly thing. He is a much more honest face to have on the empire. A crude, stupid plutocrat who is owned by other plutocrats is the perfect representative of that tyrannical power structure.
Bullshit. Obama worked towards reigning in the evil empire part of America.
But the mainstream media (Fox News is mainstream. Get used to it.) lied and reported endlessly on drone strikes despite those drone strikes causing fewer casualties than any President after Carter.
No he acted that way, and then extended them and everyone ignored it. If you were antiwar during Bush you found yourself just as angry but far more alone under Obama. Nobody wanted to hear the critiques and it stayed that way until trump round one when all the libs pretended to care again.
He ran on ending the wars and then went forward with NATO Invading Libya and turning it into an open air slave market. Assassination of a us teenager as part of his drone expansion where funerals, hospitals, and weddings were bombed regularly. The surgical drone strike nonsense is propaganda to counter act that his kill lists got press.
How about reviving the espionage act to imprison whistleblowers?? He prosecuted people who leaked that the government used waterboarding and did Gitmo ever close?
Obama ramped up immigration enforcement and deported more people than Bush or trump. He expanded ICE law enforcement powers, increased border security budget and built the cages. He failed to get any positive reform to stick so the end result was more enforcement.
Fuck off with that tan suit washing nonsense honestly. Obama did continue the status quo and put a pretty face on it. Trump does show you what this country truly is. 100%
That statement isn’t backed by any data.
“On July 1, 2016, President Barack Obama signed an executive order requiring annual accounting of civilian and enemy casualties in U.S. drone strikes outside war zones (“Areas Outside of Active Hostilities”), and setting a deadline of May 1 each year for the release of such report.[27][28] However, soon after taking office, President Donald Trump designated large areas in Yemen and Somalia to be “areas of active hostilities,” thus exempting them from disclosure.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_from_the_United_States_drone_strikes
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-afghanistan-airstrikes-increased-civilian-deaths-by-330-since-2016-2020-12
https://www.ranker.com/list/the-twelve-worst-us-presidents-based-on-body-counts/dralcarroll
https://airwars.org/research/civilian-deaths-by-us-president-in-iraq-and-syria/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War
Obama made it public. Bush and Trump hid it.
Obama also classified all ‘military aged’ males near areas of hostile activities as terrorists. Sorry you were fooled by Obama but he didnt change America and he didnt bring hope or peace to the world. Just a pretty facade that made yall feel justified and superior as he overthrew socialist countries, continues the wars, the torture, and the deportations.
Sure trump is worse. Everyone can see trump is worse but the policy and enforcement are not as far from each other as the Dem establishment and their fanatics pretend. Obamas America and trumps America are the same America. Libya and Syria, extending the patriot act indefinitely, keeping Gitmo open and us troops in the middle east, prosecuting snowden all really cemented that for me.
We are the baddies. We were during Obama and Bush and Clinton and trump just stops anyone from claiming otherwise.
I didn’t claim Obama didn’t kill anyone. I do claim, supported by links, that he killed less than Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, and Trump.
You claimed he was worse than Bush which is not supported by any data.
I see, my claim was actually that he deported more than bush and trump. Not killed more people in war. Not that he was worse than bush, just not different. Obama turned out to be more of the same evil empire.
I did also claim that instead of ending the wars in the middle east via the NATO overthrow of Libya and Syria, and that the drone casualities are under reported.
No. You made many claims only one of which was about deportation.
The one cool thing about digital communication is you can just scroll up and reread the original lol
Can you not see what you wrote?
You wrote a paragraph on anti war
You wrote a paragraph on Libya
You wrote a paragraph on deportation
You wrote follow up replies about young boys classified as terrorists for kill reports.
Now you claim you were only writing about deportation.
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Expanding the war on terror, causing the war in Ukraine, letting the bankers that made up his cabinet just wholesale write and pass regulations, crushing unions, funding and arming Mexican cartels… Obama was a terrible human being. He was a standard US president, representative of the empire, and responsible for the deaths of millions that were in the way of us interests.
This isnt redd*t. Being a neoliberal isn’t a good thing here.
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Nazified Ukraine??? Ukraine was invaded by Russia. The invading Russian Wagner troops were called Wagner after Hitler’s favorite composer.
Actual Hitler fans invaded Ukraine but you call Ukraine Nazi for defending themselves.
Azov battalion.
Don’t know of any other mods to remove my posts, but Ukraine having a nazi problem is not contentious. Stephen Bandera and other ww2 german collaboration (literally including extermination camps) having national holidays. Minsk accords was west acknowledging the need to pull back Ukraine’s nazi problem. Western media covered Ukraine’s nazi extremist rulership, and apartheid ethnostate laws, before they became full on puppets, under Biden, to instigate war on Russia. Zelensky doesn’t even deny it: “it is what it is”.
That Obama administration instigated 2014 coup is fully established. It is disinformation to just suggest any of this could be mistaken, much less being accused of/established for being disinformation. CIA making a wikipedia page (see talk) for asserting absurdities is not authoritative, and shameful state disinformation narrative, in favour of nazis no less, this unknown mod uses to serve tyranny, and ensure more are murdered every day until these lies aren’t supported anymore.
Main point was just to highlight that Ukraine’s suicidal warmongering path was started under Obama administration with the long cast of DNC stars at the head of the cabinet. Whether Ukraine’s ruling philosophy is “my little pony” or not doesn’t change their CIA puppet role as war instigator for a war the US empire wants to keep active to “diminish Russia”.
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In 1994, Russia signed the Budapest Memorandum which requires the US and UK to defend Ukraine.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#:~:text=In 1994%2C Ukraine agreed to,sovereignty in the existing borders.
Russia had already violated their 1994 agreement with Ukraine when they invaded Crimea in 2012.
Russia specifically claimed they were only holding practice exercises before their sneak invasion.
The liberation of Crimea was in 2014. It’s unclear how treaties should affect a province/people requesting assistance from oppression, as a result of a fascist coup, incidently by US and UK. Not surprising that a treaty is not interpreted as a suicide pact.
You already lost the argument about fascist when you invaded with troops named after Hitler.
Putin has been in power for 24 years!
Zionist Supremacists and all oligarchy that allies with them for their seat at the trough, have been in control over US for 75 years. Russia’s military production complex is largely owned by Russia and doesn’t have to operate at a profit. In US, they own you, and don’t have to produce working equipment to take all of your money.
The core definition of naziism includes anti-communist/soviet ideology that for Ukraine has morphed into anti-ethnic Russian ideology. I’m sure there is a Russia that owns Hitler’s favorite breed of dog as well, and you should use that to totally be convincing in your trolling.
There is no communism in Russia today. Industry is owned by private individuals.
Zionists? Because Nazis are famous for supporting Jews?
Why are there so many Russian billionaires?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_oligarchs
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/07/31/russian-billionaires-supply-kremlins-army-military-industrial-complex-proekt-a82013
None of the Russian Millionaires and Billionaires actually produced their wealth. They got it from extracting the surplus value of the workers in their companies. Russia is capitalist and has been since 1991.