Until the rule is removed, any new posts about US politics will be removed.

  • @oxjox@lemmy.ml
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    How the fuck is Lemmy supposed to serve as an open alternative to corporate controlled social media when the mods ban discussing one of the most impactful events of the day? You should be begging people to talk about politics here. Unsubbed. EDIT: AND BLOCKED. If I wanted to hang out in a fascist community I’d join twitter.

    • @Karmmah@lemmy.world
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      922 months ago

      By giving people the opportunity to host their own instances and create their own communities with rules they like. This however does not mean that everything should be allowed everywhere. Actually this means that everywhere you go people make their own rules and if you dont like them, go somewhere else or create your own community.

      • CaptainBlagbird
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        112 months ago

        This however is the main problem of social media in general. It creates circles of like-minded people where it is really easy to reject “other” thoughts and accept “our” ideas without much questioning. This is less a problem for people who are trained in critical thinking, but might be dangerous for more unstable people.

        I’m just saying that a mix of different views is always good to some degree. Whether/how this should be done on Lemmy is a different thing.

        • @Karmmah@lemmy.world
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          92 months ago

          Absolutely. If this rule was a permanent rule I don’t think so many people would defend it. However from experience (reddit for example) I think many people know that US politics has the ability to claim and overrun just about every space on the “western” internet. This is not something that really creates value for many people especially those that don’t live in the US and I think this ruling is trying to prevent that.

        • @garbagebagel@lemmy.world
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          I generally agree with your points on not wanting to create echo chambers; however, another reason for temporarily banning the topic imo is not just to block people talking about it but also to protect people who are already hurting, grieving, and generally just trying to find some sort of escape at the moment. Creating a space that will guarantee a temporary escape is nice, I think.

      • @oxjox@lemmy.ml
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        -302 months ago

        Ridiculous copy/paste reply. You’re not making a good case for people leaving corporate media for Lemmy. You’re encouraging them to stay where they are.

        • @Karmmah@lemmy.world
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          What’s wrong about it though? The freedom lies in the ability to create your own community that is not regulated by one company/organisation owning the platform. You can go to the place where you agree with the rules and you don’t have to live under the rules of someone you don’t like.

          • Colforge
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            62 months ago

            They’re just butthurt that they’re not being allowed to spew their hot takes all over this community as a captive audience that isn’t interested.

            • Chozo
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              Nobody was doing that here, though. Have you even seen this community? It’s super inactive to begin with.

          • BarqsHasBite
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            22 months ago

            What’s wrong is fracturing. Lemmy is not so massive that it can sustain niche communities for every little topic.

            • Blaze (he/him)
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              22 months ago

              I wouldn’t consider US politics a small topic, especially on Lemmy

              • BarqsHasBite
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                It’s not a small topic, it’s a small community to set up all these tiny communities.

                Community is what we called subs on the other site.

        • @Danitos@reddthat.com
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          72 months ago

          Not every sub has to revolve around US elections all day/weeks/months long. That has nothing to do with corporate media.

          • @oxjox@lemmy.ml
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            -42 months ago

            If some other country had a historic election, I would HOPE to see open dialog spread in places like this for people to express themselves. Why ban an internationally relevant discussion when people have the choice to be members of the community. How about - if you don’t like it, you can leave.

            • @Danitos@reddthat.com
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              But there are places for the discussion to be made. Lemmy as a whole did not ban the elections discussion, just this one specific sub. In fact, you’ll see basically every single sub of Lemmy discussing it.

              This is a temporary rule for 1 single community.

            • xigoi
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              22 months ago

              How about - if you don’t like it, you can leave.

              The irony in this sentence…

        • xigoi
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          12 months ago

          Many Reddit subreddits also don’t allow politics.

    • @simple@lemm.ee
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      I’m for making a megathread for people who really want to talk about it here but I genuinely don’t understand why you’re upset you can’t talk about US politics everywhere in the platform. There are tons of communities for that. AskLemmy is for

      open-ended, thought provoking questions

      Instead, most US related posts are for venting and complaining. See these communities instead:

      !politics@lemmy.world

      !aboringdystopia@lemmy.world

      !leftism@lemmy.world

      !politicalhumor@lemmy.world

      !news@lemmy.world

      And dozens of similar communities on other instances. It’s not censorship to ask you to go to use the proper channels, not everyone here wants to see US news everywhere.

      • @ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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        52 months ago

        It’d be different if the instance was actually crowded and overrun, but it isn’t. The instance gets like 20 posts on a good day.

      • @oxjox@lemmy.ml
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        -62 months ago

        upset you can’t talk about US politics everywhere in the platform

        I’m upset that a moderator believes that banning the discussion of a major national / international event is healthy for the community. I could understand that for a niche community like Music but not one of the most popular general purpose ones. There’s no reason this should be banned other than a personal preference. This informs me that the moderators of this community are not interested in an open platform for genuine discussion.

        • @ebc@lemmy.ca
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          I’m not from the US and my Lemmy feed has been absolutely FLOODED with US political news for MONTHS. Yesterday’s vote was the bushel that broke the camel’s back, and I definitely understand non-political communities not wanting to be even more flooded with US politics than they already are.

          Go complain about your broken country in politics-oriented communities, please, and let us talk about other, less despair-inducing subjects.

          • @pressanykeynow@lemmy.world
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            32 months ago

            my Lemmy feed has been absolutely FLOODED with US political news for MONTHS

            Damn I’m so glad that propaganda flow that for some reason was even allowed in most of Lemmy will stop now.

          • @oxjox@lemmy.ml
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            -22 months ago

            Remember your words when Netanyahu bombs Gaza and people want to ask the community about it.

            Just because YOU don’t want to hear about something doesn’t mean en entire community should BAN discussion of it. It’s absolutely bonkers that anyone can rationalize this position.

            • @ebc@lemmy.ca
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              62 months ago

              That’s not US politics. And the rule is temporary; the goal is just to get a breather after a months-long marathon of hearing about nothing else on Lemmy.

      • @1984@lemmy.today
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        How is the American presidential choice of picking 80 year old sociopath Donald Trump not a thought provoking issue?

        But sure. Let’s focus on why Bananas are yellow.

    • @Artyom@lemm.ee
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      252 months ago

      Mods are people of the community too. If you don’t like them, you can make your own community.

      • Chozo
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        That’s a bad take. The mods made the choice to moderate a general-purpose community in the first place. If they want a more narrowly-focused community, they should make one.

    • aard
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      182 months ago

      Because we’re glad it is finally over after having deal with your election bullshit for the last half year? We made contingency plans for a trump win, so we acknowledged his win this morning, hope the planning is sufficient, and finally move on to something else.

    • SendPicsofSandwiches
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      142 months ago

      Because you can go to literally any instance and create a community just for political drivel or even just go to the hundreds of other communities already dedicated to exactly that.

    • SavvyWolf
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      52 months ago

      … You know you can just create a community and post stuff there, right?

    • darkstar
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      42 months ago

      Good riddance man, Sheesh. Why are you so upset?

    • Littux
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      32 months ago

      Bye, no one misses you. You won’t be much valuable for this community anyways so it’s better if you aren’t here

    • @1984@lemmy.today
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      100% agree.

      The moderation is completely out of hand. Instead of being happy we have a platform where we can discuss things outside of big tech platforms, we have people who think moderation is more important than letting people express what is on their mind, specially on this day.

      Wish I could make the mods be a bit mature here, but probably not.

      Whats next, banning people for discussing moderation? I would not be surprised at this point.

      I’ve been here from the start so I’m just angry to see this kind of thing here. Whoever mod who did this should look in the mirror and think “is my behavior a plus or a minus for the platform”.