I highly doubt the left will do anything uncivil. How can they win back the country? Is it too late?

  • I Cast Fist
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    It’s been “too late” for 'mericans to “win back the country” for a couple of decades at least. I mean, the entire electoral/voting system needs to be redone from the ground up because it’s very non-democratic.

    • @dan1101@lemm.ee
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      If Trump won the electoral college but not the popular vote I’d say it is.non-Democratic. But he won the popular vote too. So half the country are just self destructive.

      • I Cast Fist
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        Quite the change from 2016, when he lost the popular vote by almost 3 million. Congrats, 'murica.

      • @Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca
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        People don’t vote because they see the system is rigged so the popular vote isn’t a great standard to go by either, it’s a product of the system as well

        If you had 100% turnout the popular vote would be very different.

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          People don’t vote because they see the system is rigged so the popular vote isn’t a great standard to go by either, it’s a product of the system as well

          My area is such a strong republican district that my vote is functionally irrelevant aside from the president. Hell, they didn’t even bother with democrat candidates on a local level.

    • ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠
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      I’m sorry, you’re looking at these results and seeing too little democracy in play?

      • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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        Yes. The Dems lost this election more than the Reps won it.

        And no, it’s not just Harris. It’s the fact they haven’t accomplished anything substantially changing the lives of people for dozens of years, and they fought more against people like Sanders than people like Cheney.

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          Doesn’t help that you have old hags like Nancy Pelosi refusing to relinquish any power and pass the torch to someone younger. People shouldn’t have to wait for you to die to take the reigns.

        • sunzu2
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          Limp dick DNC shills corpo agenda than pika face when peasants dont stay loyal to “the good team”

          • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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            92 hours ago

            The ACA, which brought US healthcare from an 18th century level to a 19th century one in 2010, was a half measure under Obama, he got reelected for it, he was president for 7 more years after he signed that.

            First time voters today were 4 years old when it happened. What else has the Democratic Party been doing? How about the housing crisis? How about inflation? Oh, they got that one 1400 USD stimmy check passed after Trump looted the coffers for corpos big and small.

            Look, I’m not saying Harris wasn’t the better, less destructive choice. I’m saying something had had to happen, and people didn’t turn out for a candidate who said the past four years and the way the world is going is good. Not as well as for someone who saw problems and proposed - admittedly monstrous and ineffective - solutions.

      • @troglodytis@lemmy.world
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        Yes. It’s not half of America, it’s half of the voters. Things would change drastically if only the nonvoter voted.

        • sunzu2
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          Things would change drastically if only the nonvoter voted.

          There is a big fat assumption in there, a similar reason why kamala lost…

      • Johanno
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        If you consider that more people didn’t vote for Trump and he still won, then yes.