Me: Ireland - Approximately 2 minutes until poll in hand is the longest.

I’ve been seeing long lines for the US elections even for early voting. Seems completely unnecessary.

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    They cheat to win however they can.

    From the outside looking it it does appear that way but it seems so…un-American. I’ve spent a decent bit of time over there over the course of my life (north of 6 months total, mostly up and down both coasts) and I’m genuinely very fond of the US and its people and that has given me this internal sense of what “un-American” is if that isn’t a ludicrous statement.

    The whole “rig things to your advantage” thing is really mask off at this point and I’m surprised that it’s tolerated.

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      From the outside looking it it does appear that way but it seems so…un-American.

      it’s at our core and since our founding; things like the electoral college (the same one that’s helping trump win) were implemented to give the few wealthy people a way of preventing the masses of poor people from obtaining meaningful political representation. at the time of its inception, the few wealthy were slave owners and the masses of the poor were mostly immigrants with relatively strong abolitionist & populist views for the time.

      I’ve spent a decent bit of time over there over the course of my life (north of 6 months total, mostly up and down both coasts) and I’m genuinely very fond of the US and its people and that has given me this internal sense of what “un-American” is if that isn’t a ludicrous statement.

      i think it’s common if you don’t study the origin of this country deeply enough and i also think we all can be forgiven for not doing so since taking that action requires overcoming many obstacles designed to prevent you from doing so; also it’s depressing af and on too many levels.

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      It’s by state, and would never be tolerated where I live.

      Unfortunately it seems to be a systemic issue with certain states. At one point several had federally monitored elections to prevent shenanigans but I don’t know if that’s true anymore

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        Unfortunately it seems to be a systemic issue with certain states. At one point several had federally monitored elections to prevent shenanigans but I don’t know if that’s true anymore

        i think that you’re referring to the voting rights act of 1965 and it was rendered toothless by the supreme court in 2013 and it was created because of those systematic issues.