Donald Trump said Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s proposal to remove fluoride from the U.S. water systems "sounds okay" to him, raising alarms for public health.
  • Former President Donald Trump said that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s proposal to remove fluoride from the U.S. water systems “sounds okay” to him.
  • Kennedy, who is poised to play a health policy role in a potential Trump administration, recently wrote, “The Trump White House will advise all U.S​. water systems to remove fluoride from public water.”
  • According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, “the safety and benefits of fluoride are well documented and have been reviewed comprehensively by several scientific and public health organizations.”
  • @fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc
    16•1 day ago

    The reason why you’re being downvoted is because you’ve provided some outlandish claims without any source.

    I honestly remember my parent’s talking about these exact things in the 80s. It’s absurd to claim that in the interceding decades no reputable science has supported these claims.

    Science is sometimes wrong, and from time to time we have to improve our understanding of things, but great claims require great evidence.

    • @forrgott@lemm.ee
      -24•1 day ago

      Nah. That’s not it at all. I said those idiots were right about something, and y’all lost your minds!

      But, seriously, the only “outlandish” claim I made had to do with using fluoride to keep people docile. And, to be frank, there is nothing outlandish at all about the idea that the ruling class would do something like that. Hell, the United States government has done so many things that are so much worse.

      And I don’t actually care. If I ever start worrying about what people say about me online, I’m going bear hunting. Naked and unarmed.

          • @fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc
            6•22 hours ago

            … but I found a blog post saying the earth is flat, and it had very thorough citations.

            Bold claims require irrefutable evidence.

            The weight of evidence in support of fluoridation is overwhelming. It’s the greatest public health intervention in the history of human kind.

            If you want to say it makes people docile then you need large double blinded peer reviewed longitudinal studies supporting that claim. If you don’t have that then you’re going to get downvotes because you’re just parroting nonsense.

            • @dontgooglefinderscult
              1•21 hours ago

              What company pays you? Because it was the tin mining industry that launched the public fluoridation campaign in the US using no actual evidence to support oral health ingestion. China’s population does not fluoridated water but has better dental health outcomes than the US.

              Not to mention you think fluoridation is more important than fucking vaccines or condoms?

            • @forrgott@lemm.ee
              -4•20 hours ago

              Yup. There is overwhelming evidence, and that’s why the vast majority of the world due not do it.

              If you want to claim evidence is overwhelming, she me the proof. Not a simple fucking comparison of arbitrary data. I believe you set the bar at “you need large double blinded peer reviewed longitudinal studies”. Counting the occurrence of something before and after some other things changed…is not that. So where is it?

              (And are you fucking for real on your stupid “flat earth” bullshit? They’ll provide same quality and number of citations as you morons do.)

              Or don’t. Just go on getting all evangelical about what you’ve been told is true. What the fuck ever…

              Edit: holy shit, you dumb shits are going into my profile and downvoting random unrelated shit. Fucking weak guys. Now I know that you all know you’re doing as fuck.

      • @orgrinrt@lemmy.world
        4•1 day ago

        Well, you actually begin with a good example of another outlandish claim. They are right? I don’t suppose you can back that up? If not, that’s just an unbacked claim. Outlandish, of course, is subjective, but I’d say it sure is just that.

        The one you claim is outlandish, is, indeed, outlandish. I agree with your point that this is what the ruling class would do, if we remove this thought experiment from any context and real-life bounds. They 100% would. If they knew they’d get away with it.

        I don’t believe they would, in reality, though, get away with it.

        So while that point is logical in a detached sense, it still is as outlandish as everything else.

        Edit: What’s up with this .ee instance by the way? Has anyone else noticed that a lot of commenters and comments like this happen to be from there? Contrarians, completely weird takes, oddly common “I’m a leftist, BUT…” comments, and a lot of third party voters and enthusiasts. I’ve noted it earlier but this finally made it hit. Does anyone know some context that they’d have time and energy to share?