• @ajdndkk@sh.itjust.works
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    111 days ago
    1. People give this world a meaning. Who cares what happens to the world if there is no one to care.
    2. You need children for the next generation to exist. I believe this one is obvious.
    3. You need people to solve problems. Our generation may have fucked up. But at least give a next generation a chance. I mean do not multiply like rabbits. But maintaining population is important.
    4. You can raise your children, so they will make the change or vote for the people who will make the change.
    5. Climate change is not the only problem. And there are a lot of things to consider when you decide on having kids. Even on individual level I believe it is very beautiful thing to give another human being a chance to experience life. Especially if you do not see the world/life only as bad. But the question “Is it morally good to bring the children to this (broken/beautiful) world” is mostly philosophical and IMO boils down to optimistic vs. pessimistic view on the world.
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      11 days ago

      Plenty of other lifeforms will still be there to enjoy this world 👍 and they’d be better of too

      • @ajdndkk@sh.itjust.works
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        411 days ago

        You would not be there to care about animals, plants or rocks. Just animals eating each other and still rocks.

          • @ajdndkk@sh.itjust.works
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            011 days ago

            Is there any reason why would anyone want that?

            Is it just “I care about animals/rocks soo much I would like humans go extinct.”

            Because without us to give animals more meaning, they are just some random life forms eating, raping and reproducing on a giant rock floating through universe until this rock crashes into sun. Why would you care if there are more of such life forms due to humans leaving earth.

            Is there anything more to it? Am I just too dumb to understand it?

            • @iii@mander.xyz
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              111 days ago

              Is there anything more to it?

              The point of view “why care about nature if it’s not for human pleasure” isn’t shared by everyone.

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                210 days ago

                But humans are also animals of this world. Part of this giant floating rock. Do you also have other specific animals you hate? Do you hate all carnivores? What about animals that are destroying plants? Or beavers destroying whole ecosystems? Or animals that have wars? Or just humans because we change our environment the most?

                • @iii@mander.xyz
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                  110 days ago

                  Do you also have other specific animals you hate? Do you hate all carnivores? What about animals that are destroying plants?

                  I’m unsure why you think I hate animals?

                  • @ajdndkk@sh.itjust.works
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                    110 days ago

                    Your wishes for extinction of human race got me to believe you hate humans. And since humans are animals, I am just asking if humans are the only animals you hate.