• thermal_shock
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    123 hours ago

    cameras do NOT make the roads safer. it’s a revenue stream based off ripping off it’s citizens. if anything everyone slams on their brakes when they see one causing more accidents.

    • TheTechnician27
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      40 minutes ago

      Why on Earth is this unfounded argument getting upvoted so heavily? Objectively the science says that it reduces injuries and deaths. Per the linked Cochrane systematic review of 35 studies:

      Despite the methodological limitations and the variability in degree of signal to noise effect, the consistency of reported reductions in speed and crash outcomes across all studies show that speed cameras are a worthwhile intervention for reducing the number of road traffic injuries and deaths. However, whilst the the evidence base clearly demonstrates a positive direction in the effect, an overall magnitude of this effect is currently not deducible due to heterogeneity and lack of methodological rigour. More studies of a scientifically rigorous and homogenous nature are necessary, to provide the answer to the magnitude of effect.

      People on the Internet will just upvote the most confidently incorrect shit as long as it has enough confidence behind it and it vaguely aligns with their preconceptions, I swear.

      • thermal_shock
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        22 hours ago

        yes, because no one has ever gotten a ticket or in trouble for something they didn’t do.

        • @celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          448 minutes ago

          This is such a bland nothingburger of an argument. Don’t follow the law because…sometimes police give speeding tickets to people who weren’t speeding?

    • @then_three_more@lemmy.world
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      Except they do make it safer and because there’s always tonnes of signs around them you don’t get the brake slamming. They act as a deterrent. Plus accidents at lower speeds are inherently less dangerous.

      Mobile speed traps, however, are a definite revenue boost.

        • @then_three_more@lemmy.world
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          -21 hour ago

          Maybe you guys ought to campaign to get the law changed. They used to be grey over here, but pressure was put on the government and how they’re all high vis yellow with loads of warnings before them.

          • thermal_shock
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            31 hour ago

            how about just not ripping off people for doing 37 in a 35?

            If the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law only exists for the lower class. if it were a percentage of your annual income, completely different story.

            • @then_three_more@lemmy.world
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              Over here if you’re just a bit over they’ll normally put you on a speed awareness course for the first time getting caught.

              And I 100% agree on fines being income based. I think some of the Scandinavian countries have done that. I also think there needs to be some kind of catch for the super rich who work the system so they don’t really declare an income. Maybe if your net worth is x times the national average the fine is the greater of either a percentage of your net worth or income.