• maegul (he/they)
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    31 year ago

    There was an article around here about Germany ditching hydrogen for their trains, which, if justifiable, seems damning for anything in the air.

    • hh93
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      181 year ago

      As someone from Germany that’s the first time in reading that it was ever a thing for trains

      Pretty much all our rails have electric lines on top and most trains are working electrically already

      I really don’t see a point to waste hydrogen on cars or trains where pure electricity is working fine

      Planes seems to be the main target that absolutely will never work electrically so it needs hydrogen - there even was an article about a ship running on batteries a couple of days ago

    • @CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz
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      31 year ago

      The thing with trains is twofold: First of all, it’s relatively easy to ensure that a train is more or less always hooked up to the grid (lines over the tracks). That means it can charge almost constantly, and doesn’t need a large battery.

      The second thing is that the energy required to run a train scales very slowly with mass, because there is almost no rolling resistance (steel wheels on steel tracks have that advantage). That means you can increase the base weight of the train a bit without worrying about increased energy consumption.

      Hydrogen can compete in applications where you need large amounts of energy, that needs to be transported, and where you don’t have regular access to the grid. Prime examples could be long-distance shipping, flight, and long-distance trucking through areas with little or no electric infrastructure (e.g. rural Australia).