Memory Alpha’s riot timeline:
Early in the morning of September 1st, a fight between a guard and a dim sparked a riot, wherein the ghosts led by B.C. attacked the Sanctuary guards and quickly captured the Sanctuary Processing Center as well as the rest of the district. Armed with the weapons of the overpowered guards, the ghosts took six center employees hostage, including Vin, Calvera, and Lee. They were joined by “Gabriel Bell” and Michael Webb, who acted as the voice and face of the riot while dealing with police negotiator Detective Preston.
Chris Brynner, who owned Brynner Information Systems (which operated Channel 90 on the net), was convinced by Dax to break the law and to reconnect the Processing Center after the police cut it off. Reconnected on September 2nd, many Sanctuary residents (such as Henry Garcia) were able to tell their stories of imprisonment to the outside world. As a result, the American public became aware of the great injustice that had been hidden from them and further riots broke out in Sanctuaries across the US.
Despite protests from Detective Preston, the governor of California ordered National Guardsmen to retake the Sanctuary by force on September 3rd at 0500 hours. In the melee, hundreds of Sanctuary residents were killed, including B.C. and Michael Webb. “Gabriel Bell” was shot, protecting Vin and the other hostages (all of whom remained unharmed).
I’m not fantasizing about the past, I’m seeing the same mistakes being made, and the only thing that seems to have been learned (maybe!) is that there is a belief of getting away with it without getting lynched at the end. So basically what I’m saying is that you see things improving here and there, I see a trend that will get rid of most of it by bringing back a century ago. But I see where the misunderstanding came from, I said “go back 100 years” meaning as look at that, not 50 years ago, as things were eerily similar as where we are heading. Again, that thing about not explaining myself clearly as being part of my initial idea of bowing out of this…
This is the one thing we’ll agree immediately, without need of argument: born in and never left Italy. And as ultra nationalism rises, I feel less and less happy about it.
“Things improving here and there”
Everything has improved in the large scale.
Things have gotten worse “here and there”. Like my gen and buying houses. Not something that has improved in the past 20 years, but I would argue that the people are better informed of that specific problem than they were, so…
Things were not better 100 years ago.
And that’s why I’m saying it’s going all bad, because we’re headed back there.
“We’re headed back there”
“I’m not an apathetic pessimist”
Pick one
You’re taking the “history repeats itself” a tad too seriously.
Even if we looked at the US as the new Nazi Germany and Trump as the new Hitler, he hasn’t even remotely got the health or intelligence for even half the shit Hitler pulled off, and Hitler was not a stable genius in any sense of the phrase. Not stable, nor a genius.
What’s your evidence of “were heading back there” if you can’t use a saying as proof?
Sure, easy. Italy’s current government is the most far right we’ve had since the end of WWII, the yearly celebration of the end of fascism is becoming controversial because “we’re the only ones that could celebrate defeat”. The xenophobic separatist party that has been (and still is!) the butt of the joke since the 90’s is basically what we’re getting, except it’s ultra nationalism instead of considering 2/3 of the country inferior. There’s a literal invasion going on at the doors of Europe, not everyone condemns it (globally, not specifically here). The EU council was to vote on a proposal to require… chat content moderation? I think that was the name, basically a “privacy conscious” on device automated check of at least media before it is uploaded. People cheered when they decided to not vote on it. I despair because of the reason: there was no clear majority. It’ll come back once they’re confident it will pass. Roe vs Wade overturned.
I thank you for the conversation, but as it’s been a day already, and it’s also close to an argument, I am going to bow out. It speaks volumes about the quality of Star Trek communities that I had no need to ignore ad hominems. You’re a good person.
Those are the worrying trends. We know to worry about the rise of the far right. Even globally. Global communication on this level was not a thing 100 years ago, and neither was fearing the far-right as much.
I could list hundreds of positive things which have happened in the world which definitely weren’t a thing 100 years ago. Thousands even. But those aren’t worrysome. Those don’t make you nervous. So they’re easy to ignore.
I’m not trying to say the far-right and their popularity isn’t an issue, but it’s an issue differently than it was 100 years ago.
It’s easy to throw hands up in the air and say “I’m out.”
I always preferred a challenge.
You couldn’t possibly know that, but it feels good nonetheless, true or not. Thanks.