• @GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip
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    63 months ago

    If you do not apply some sort of (proven) cleaning agent to your hair on a reasonably frequent basis, i dont care how in touch with nature and your primal self you are, you stink. If you dont want to deal with the maintenance cut it off, rocking the wrecking ball aesthetic is pretty great actually.

    • @Lowpast@lemmy.world
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      173 months ago

      The no-poo (no shampoo) movement is very real and definitely works for many people (dependant on hair type and oil secretions). Basically, once you stop washing away your natural oils daily, the production normalizes and then a regular rinse with water and occasionally something like diluted soap, lemon juice or apple cider vinegar.

      I’ve met them, I was one, I know them. You wouldn’t know unless they told you.

      • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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        93 months ago

        The only people saying you should use shampoo daily are the shampoo makers. Most people can get away with once a week.

      • queermunist she/her
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        93 months ago

        and occasionally something like diluted soap, lemon juice or apple cider vinegar.

        i.e. some sort of (proven) cleaning agent

        • DarkSirrush
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          113 months ago

          By occasionally, they mean once a month at most.

          Hair only stinks if you get crap in it.

          • Dr. Wesker
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            -23 months ago

            Like… oils and dander?

            What’s next, not washing your sheets because body soil is natural?

            • DarkSirrush
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              113 months ago

              Uhm, no? That’s quite a leap you made there.

              For a normal human with no health problems affecting their oil production/smell, if you aren’t using shampoo/conditioner to constantly strip the oils from your hair, you very quickly stop overproducing oil.

              Bedsheets and pillows should still be washed regularly, since they definitely get covered in excess skin oils/grime/etc.

              But as long as you are caring for your hair in other ways like brushing daily and keeping it away from food/grease/mud/etc, using soap isn’t necessary unless you actually soil it - rinsing is enough to get rid of sweat buildup.

              Obviously, if you are working something like a trade job, its not possible to avoid debris, grime and other things and you need to wash your hair more, but an office job? Retail? Just brush and rinse regularly, and your hair will smell and look just fine.

              • Dr. Wesker
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                3 months ago

                What’s next, stop wiping your butt because poop is natural?

            • KillingTimeItself
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              13 months ago

              not washing sheets is bad because they collect and hold body oils. Like your hair if you don’t wash it either.

              Which is why most people here are saying to wash your hair regularly…

              Likewise, you probably don’t need super aggressive detergent to clean your sheets, you could probably just get away with using steam alone, though you might want some detergent or surfactant for obvious reasons.

          • queermunist she/her
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            Okay, but it’s important for everyone elseto know that they aren’t going years without using a cleaning agent like wild animals.

            You ever smell an animal’s fur? It’s not great.

            • DarkSirrush
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              33 months ago

              If you are brushing them often, feeding them good food, and not letting your dog roll in everything, they smell a lot better.

              That being said, animals in general do have stronger smelling oils than humans - often for some evolutionarily advantageous reasons.

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                i think part of it is also that humans have evolved to be scent neutral (to our sense of smell), whereas dogs and other animals, obviously benefit from having some smell to them.

                Though you would think maybe the smell gene would’ve died in humans? Maybe it has.

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        You can also clean your hair with conditioner or even rose water in between instead of soaps or vinegar. See the curlygirl subreddit for details about safer hair products that won’t mess up curl patterns

    • KillingTimeItself
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      i think you might be confusing the idea of “artifical smells” with “natural human scent” where as humans normally smell like “nothing”

      as a chronic non scented user, because i hate smelling like things, i would annoy the shit out of you.

      If you dont want to deal with the maintenance cut it off

      this isn’t even remotely true, you still have to brush it, tie it off, and wash it out properly, all of which takes a lot of time. You can’t not do that.

      Literally the only reason i ever stink is because my clothes aren’t clean (i sweat like a motherfucker) or i genuinely just haven’t showered in like a week.

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        i have a very sensitive nose, and let me tell you i have not met a single person who says of themselves they don’t smell and actually don’t, they absolutely do. We are just used to our own and dont register it unless it gets intense.

        I’m not saying you should bathe in perfume or obsessively rinse your scalp with bleach, just that if people go several days without using soap on themselves I 100% always smell them. For hair it isn’t much different.

        • KillingTimeItself
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          13 months ago

          are you talking about scented or scentless soap? You’re probably just smelling the soap itself.

          There is also a difference between “smells just a tinge bit stinky” and “i can smell you from here dog” if it’s the former it probably doesn’t make the cut as “stank”

        • Bob
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          I have a very sensitive nose too, described as that of a dog by my sister, and it’s not that people not using shampoo smell worse, it’s that they smell of sebum and pheromones and all that stuff, which I don’t mind. I smell more like an animal, and I love animals.

          A few years ago I had to stay inside a lot, so I tried showering without soap on my body too, and it does seem to work better for longer than using soap, but it’s less convenient and sort of less reliable I find, so I use soap again on the three key areas. My hair though, I just use water to wash. My girlfriend tried to argue with me once that I needed shampoo and she just looked it up briefly and said “I was wrong!”