• @Tyfud@lemmy.world
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    This is reductionist, and ignoring the fact that trump is indeed, a domestic terrorist, regardless of whether or not the media has the balls to label him as such.

    He has instigated an attempted coup, that failed, but only because they weren’t prepared or organized, not for lack of actually performing the coup.

    And Nov 5th is the date Guy Fawkes attempted to blow up the English parliament, so I think the OP has reason to post the similarities here.

    Downplaying trump’s ongoing domestic terrorism and violent rhetoric against his fellow Americans is just bolstering the fascist gameplan here.

    • @abbadon420@lemm.ee
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      The likes of Trump shows that America might be losing grip on it’s position as a world leader. It won’t though, if not only for the ridiculous military budget. But economically that place is increasingly moving towards Asia (particularly China). To remain at the top though, you need to have a stable political system. It doesn’t even need to be democratic, but a coup (or civil war even) is definitely not a stable situation. So, Trump is definitely not “making America great again”. It takes a lot to be actually thrown from the top, but other nations are slowly losing bits of respect or regard for America. Especially during the previous Trump term.

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        Agreed. We don’t have another “oops, we fucked up in who we elected to lead the most powerful nation in human history that could literally, not figuratively, wipe all of humanity off the map if he felt like it after a round of golf”, in us that the rest of the world will forgive us for.

        The fact that trump was ever elected, and has been close to re-elected, and is still going for a third attempt, is highlighting that a non-trivial number of Americans are willing to bring the system, and the world to its knees, purely because they feel disenfranchised for not getting the leg up they assume they would because of their skin color or family history supporting succession in the south.

    • @Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world
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      Idk what country you reside in, but mine (USA) was founded on being rogue, our independence was funded by robbing banks. The current system does not help, I haven’t met an actual Biden or Harris Supporter, it literally is only “fuck trump” support. You think you are making a stand against him, but the really sad part is for most USA people Biden failed so hard Trump is looking like a savior (I vote Chase Oliver). Meanwhile the media brainwashed you to call Americans terrorists for exercising their right to protest, literally the most American of rights 🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅

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        You are falling victim to isolationism and siloed beliefs. You believe because you personally haven’t seen or talked to anyone in the last 5 weeks who supports Harris, that they either don’t exist, or are exaggerated by the media.

        Well, I’m a Harris supporter. All of my friends are. Everyone I’ve met in the last 20 days from plumbers to electricians to waiters have been Harris supporters.

        So now what do you do with that data?

        I can be both a Harris supporter, and a “fuck trump” person. They are not mutually exclusive.

        You appear to be falling into one logical fallacy after another here.

        Your whole pitch seems to be that think you’re patriotic for supporting an openly fascist party overthrowing our current democratic republic because one time, hundreds of years ago, we overthrew another monarchical/oligarchy government and established our current democratic republic?

        Are you even listening to your arguments, or are you just spouting whatever right wing rhetoric you picked up on the latest red pilled youtube video? Because it sounds like you’re supporting a fascist dictatorship in the name of “free speech”. I cannot even begin to tell you the number of things wrong with that viewpoint, mostly because I’ve got other things to do today and I get the feeling that you’re mostly trolling. At least I hope. Either way, you’re not worth any more of my time.

        • @Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world
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          -343 months ago

          I literally supported a third party candidate in my post and literally your whole last paragraph(and essentially your whole post) said nothing other than your wrong imma block you.

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            You also literally whitewashed a terrorist attack coup attempt and tried to literally elevate traitor trump over Biden, which is hilariously sad.

          • @LANIK2000@lemmy.world
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            Oh no, they addressed the main point of your comment rather than focusing on a line in brackets that only served to paint you as not a complete trump drone. Grow up.

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            No, I’d guess that you’re literally a trump supporter and are feigning interest in a third party candidate to make you seem more objective somehow.

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        Sure, we have the right to peacefully protest. January 6th wasn’t that. That was domestic terrorism. Notice how those people are getting actual prison sentences, versus the college encampment protesters who are all being released with out charges. People don’t die during a peaceful protest

      • @Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works
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        Hey so Jan 6th was NOT a simple protest like you anti-freedom magats like to try to whitewash it as.

        It was a coordinated coup attempt, perpetrated by domestic terrorists.

        Anyone who supports traitor trump after that day is no longer an American.