• fadingembers
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    -164 months ago

    Y’ALL ARE LETTING IT HAPPEN WHILE IN CHARGE OF EVERYTHING

        • @TehWorld@lemmy.world
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          64 months ago

          “Put up safeguards” isn’t really actionable. What is required is that people VOTE. Democrats have been losing these elections and it’s pretty hard to enact laws when they’re out of power.

            • @TehWorld@lemmy.world
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              34 months ago

              “Putting in laws” requires that Congress (Republicans aren’t about to get on board here) get things passed. Things like ‘expanding the court’ are what really would drive Republican voters to the polls, which is why they haven’t done that. The President has less power than you seem to be giving them credit for. Do you think that Biden should just go slap a pair of cuffs on Trump? Trump would win in a landslide if that happened. The Democrats have certainly been asleep at the wheel for a while, and it’s going to take a long time to get P25 out of the government for sure. There are no quick fixes.

        • @CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world
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          4 months ago

          It would help if you could give an example of a safeguard or two that is within Biden’s power to put in place. The only actions I can think of (that couldn’t be instantly reversed by a new president) all depend on Congress, which makes them virtually impossible. But maybe there is something I am not thinking of?

          • HubertManne
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            44 months ago

            I see so many things like this and when push comes to shove they suggest they do things not legal like which is what we are trying to prevent. Making a precedent that the president can do things they can’t is not going to help. I agree that we need to vote this shit out. Being a republican or any part of the maga/qanon/etaparty type things should guarantee loss.

        • @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          4 months ago

          Cool. So what specifically could Biden do right now? More specific than just saying “safeguards” as if that’s a fucking response.

          • @BallsandBayonets
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            34 months ago

            Throw the Toupee in prison. Make it an Presidential action to disallow felons to run for political office, since they legally cannot vote. Expand the Supreme Court and fast track term limits. Throw all of the GOP in prison; treason is a felony.

              • @BallsandBayonets
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                14 months ago

                I know it’s not working in this case, since it hasn’t happened yet.

                • @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  04 months ago

                  Right. So you don’t understand how sentencing works. Got it.

                  You should do (like the most basic possible) research on the US justice system.

          • @BallsandBayonets
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            24 months ago

            Throw the Toupee in prison. Make it an Presidential action to disallow felons to run for political office, since they legally cannot vote. Expand the Supreme Court and fast track term limits. Throw all of the GOP in prison; treason is a felony.

            • @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              4 months ago

              Please look at my comment history, I’ve been nothing but an ally. You’ve misunderstood my point.

              The term “safeguards” is extremely vague.

              Trump belongs in prison, but just declaring that “they should put him away” or whatever, isn’t an actual solution. That’s not how the justice system works. He hasn’t been sentenced yet.

              My comment was one of realism. It’s easy to just say, “put him in jail,” but that’s just simply not how it works here (and for very good reason). Hence the request for specifics.

              We have separation of powers for a reason. The head of the executive branch cannot (thankfully) unilaterally put their political opponents in prison.

              So I ask again, what specifically can the executive branch do in terms of “safeguards”? This is an honest question.

              • @FollyDolly@lemmy.world
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                14 months ago

                What do you mean, we can’t throw him in prison!? IF we had a functional justice system he would have been hung as a traitor to the United States. He tried to overthrow the government and kill the vice president. There should have been no coming back from that. This isn’t just hearsay we saw it happen live. Then he sold documents to any foreign government who showed interest, which is also highly, HIGHLY illegal.

                If the justice system is so broken as to not penalize a man who is attempted to take down our democracy multiple times, than project 2025 is inevitable. If it not illegal to overthrow the government, than why does it matter who we elect?

                • @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  hung

                  He’s definitely not that.

                  But in all seroiusness… Are you purposefully missing the point? This is how the justice system works, you don’t get accused of aiding the enemy and then instantly hanged. That’s not how it works. We already execute innocent people all of the time in spite of a robust appeals system.

                  I understand that this is a pretty cut and dry case, but that doesn’t mean we get to just completely bypass the rule of law and hang suspected traitors. They still need to follow the law, and that means sentencing after a guilty verdict. He has not been sentenced yet (nor was he convicted of treason).

                  Shit moves slow, and yes there are people in this case that have been dragging their feet (such as Trump appointee Aileen Cannon), but that doesn’t mean we just skip a few steps and execute people.

        • AutistoMephisto
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          14 months ago

          The problem is the Federalism. Individual States have legislatures of their own, with, AFAICT, unchecked power to pass whatever laws they want within their borders. Congress, when it works, can only pass laws that regulate commerce between States, ensure citizens can move freely between States, collect taxes from those States, and other things.

          But again, when a State with a conservative legislature has control, they can enact parts of Project 2025, but only within their borders. They can’t force other States to follow suit unless they want SCOTUS involved.

    • @CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world
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      34 months ago

      They aren’t in charge of Congress, who actually makes laws (i.e. the crucial one here) or the Supreme Court (maybe you noticed this at some point?)