• be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social
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    Check this bit from the end:

    In a brief submitted by the State of Florida in support of Escambia, Attorney General Ashley Moody argued that the school board could ban books for any reason because the purpose of public school libraries is to “convey the government’s message,” and that can be accomplished through “the removal of speech that the government disapproves.”

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    While I didn’t think that they would go after a dictionary, it’s not surprising that fascists would go after a book full of definitions.

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      After reading a little bit, it’s not that they banned dictionaries, but it seems the district got ahead of the curve. The law itself is the problem

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        That’s why they have an overly broad definition of what is prohibited. So they can pick and choose what they will allow.

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          In this case I think the district is doing this in protest. The legislators intended to pick and choose, but the district is applying it as written, so Dictionaries are out. They’re highlighting how absurd the law is.

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            That was my impression, similar move to schools banning the Bible citing all the beastiality, rape and mass murder in there

              • That’s literally and explicitly the point.

                From the end of the article:

                In a brief submitted by the State of Florida in support of Escambia, Attorney General Ashley Moody argued that the school board could ban books for any reason because the purpose of public school libraries is to “convey the government’s message,” and that can be accomplished through “the removal of speech that the government disapproves.”

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            Perhaps, but…

            Penguin Random House, five authors, two parents of Escambia County students, and the non-profit group PEN America sued the Escambia County School Board last May, alleging that the board’s actions violate the First Amendment. The lawsuit relates to decisions by the school board, prior to the passage of HB 1069, to permanently ban several books from Escambia schools.

            The Escambia County School Board banned most of these books at the request of Vicki Baggett, a high school English teacher in the county. Baggett is responsible for hundreds of challenges in Escambia County and neighboring counties. She also appeared at the June 2023 board meeting and spoke in favor of the emergency rule.

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            Pretty bad way to protest by making your students dumber… If they want to protest, they could ban the Bible and I’m sure countless other Christian-themed books that happen to be just fine.

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              They did ban the Bible, that was one of the thousands of books they removed. Ultimately the school administrators have limited power in this case. They’re state employees, they have to follow the law. They’re providing the ones who have the actual power here, the voters, with as much ammo as they can which is bad optics. They’re doing their best to make the politicians look like incompetent morons.

              The politicians crafted this legislation to be super vague in order to let them pick and choose arbitrarily if a book violated it because they didn’t want their actual opinions on record. They had wanted this to be applied to a couple dozen existing books and then to have veto power on any new book to be added. Instead the administrators are using malicious compliance to apply it to literally any book that even remotely matches the vague wording. This does two things, first it highlights how completely arbitrary this law is, and second it bogs the censorship board down by burying them in work.

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          They have already stated they want “their people” to be the deciders. It’s just textbook fascism.

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    because it exposes students to “alternate sexual ideologies.” Baggett said she was concerned “a second grader would read this book, and that idea would pop into the second grader’s mind… that these are two people of the same sex that love each other.”

    This is the kind of people we are dealing with. They are literally trying to prevent children from developing accepting attitudes towards minorities. That is their stated goal. It’s not often I read such blatant disgusting hatred coming from a teacher. The book she was referencing was And Tango makes three. Which is unbelievable in the context of her statement. Were the penguins, who were real actual penguins, somehow a part of an “alternate sexual ideology”? How badly rotten does your brain have to be to think “sexual ideology” when you see 2 penguins raising a baby together?

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      You see, tolerance is a slippery slope. First you tolerate the Irish. Next thing you know Italians are semi-ok. Then Polish?! Eventually Catholics and Jews are acceptable. So long as none of these marry across lines.

      /s

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      Ah, don’t you just love when (a part of) the land of freedom advertises propaganda (or censors unwanted ideas more appropriately) against a minority from the early age

      Doesn’t even remotely resemble anything else /s

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    Is no one else looking at this line the school district is at this point just pulling every possible book that could match the description of the law in purpose to make a point?

    One teacher made a complaint about a couple of books so they said fine, well just remove everything else that this bill could possibly touch. Just to prove how ambiguous and far stretching this law can go?

    Of course they shouldn’t pull a dictionary but it matches the description. This is to test the law.

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    HB 1069 gives residents the right to demand the removal of any library book that “depicts or describes sexual conduct,” as defined under Florida law, whether or not the book is pornographic.

    I was going to ask how their bible gets around this, but then I found several instances of its removal in Florida.

    These librarians. I like them. Assuming they’re doing this as a statement.

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    I hope they’ve alerted their groundskeepers that all trees, shrubs, bushes, and flowers must be mowed over, because pollen and flowers are Nature’s pole-dancers and sluts. Not sure if they can have grass.

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    Parents NEED to lodge formal complaints with the police and school boards in EVERY district that still has dictionaries and encyclopedias in the libraries.

    Whittle down every district until they’re only allowed to work on coloring books for every grade K-12, or as close as they can get.

    Don’t forget to target private schools with massive social media campaigns to inform all parents that dictionaries = grooming. If the private schools refuse to respond, convince the dumber wealthy parents to pull their kids and put them into a safe school, without books.

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      But that’s their goal, they want kids to be stupid so they’ll vote republican when they grow up.

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      People, don’t do this. This is exactly what they want. This will only make things worse, and accomplish nothing.

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    The reality in Escambia County serves as a rejoinder to DeSantis, who has described concerns about book removals as a “leftist activist hoax” and a “false political narrative.”

    If Floridians had a dictionary to look up “rejoinder” with, they’d be very upset.

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    We should also ban math books, and history books. Full of sexual descriptions and imagery. Ban economy books too, full baabout advice on how to rape the poor, and the bible too with its incest and rape stories, and you know, let’s ban all the books and then just go to school to hold hands and sing hallelujah and praise Jesus.

    I see a number of Republican politicians getting very wet at this idea…

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      Actually they have banned many math books for using examples and problems that are just too close to…race or something I guess?

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    DeSantis has a stranglehold on people here in FL because he kept stuff open during Covid. So people mindlessly co-sign everything he does and Dems pretty much have given up here. They are going after all forms of education and history they don’t agree with.

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    Soon: “All books are now banned because they contain the letters L, G, B, T and Q. Any books containing these five letters will now be banned from public libraries.”