A yank without a yank

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    10 hours ago

    What baffles me about Trump supporters is that they were all told that tariffs mean we get paid more by other countries. They believed it. They didn’t believe it would cause a trade war or increased prices. Then they are told, yeah, we lied, tariffs will increase prices and will cause a trade war. And they’re like: fuck yeah! We’ll win this trade war!

    They will believe anything, even after being lied to, and will change their political stance based on whatever he is currently saying. How anyone lives so mindlessly is beyond me.

    • Devanismyname@lemmy.ca
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      9 hours ago

      There’s always a reason for it though. The right always spins it in a way that of you don’t have the facts, or even just a few of the facts, you believe what they say. And if you have the facts ready and can logically prove them wrong based on their partial facts, they will shift to saying that my source of the facts is wrong or unreliable. If you manage to find them sources from something they deem reliable, they just say they will research it later when they get a chance but never actually research it. There’s always a way for them to dance around reality because reality is an ever shifting thing for them. There’s always a lie or conspiracy afoot for them to deny basic reality as it’s presented to them. I work with these people and live in a conservative area. There is no getting through to them and if you manage, they come back a few days later slowly going back to their old way of thinking. In the end, it’s not about justice, reality, logic, or fact. It’s about fear, anger, and hatred. That’s what drives them. No reasoning with someone like that.

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      7 hours ago

      That’s an EU based site. I imagine Trump’s tariffs will apply there when their leaders don’t say he’s the prettiest dictator.

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    13 hours ago

    It’s already been cut off for a significant portion of the us due to the ‘take a picture of your id’ law

    • Flames5123@sh.itjust.works
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      10 hours ago

      And it seems that the Louisiana is the only state smart enough to have this kinda law figured out a solution that pornhub is ok with. They use a third party tool to verify access, so the government doesn’t get to know who or what access is given to.

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    Ok I’ve wanted to ask this question but can’t figure out who to ask it to:

    Can America cut off our digital subscriptions? Examples that I care about: Steam… That’s all I can think about but I guess streaming services? Maybe Spotify?

    Can Trump announce a digital embargo and shut Canadians out of their paid for libraries, since it’s all just “renting” and never owning anyways?

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      That would be economical suicide. Every European company would see this as a threat and move away from American cloud services which is all the infrastructure and servers.

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      11 hours ago

      Unequivocally yes, they can do that.

      It would be an extreme measure, but I have been warning people and emailling my MP/MPP about this issue.

      All it would take for our phones to stop working is Apple and Google invalidating one security certificate. They could release backdroored versions of our phone operating systems (I’m sure somebody would be checking the OS checksums somewhere).

      US cloud companies being forced to stop allowing canadian credit cards alone would kill most canadian tech.

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        Google runs their own cloud hosting so I think they would fight that as it would really hurt their business, so I hope trump does try and piss off more people in power.

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          And when has Trump cared about these things?

          As long as the US congress and senate let him rule as king, he’s king, and he’ll just claim any bad press is Google’s unfair retribution.

          • Devanismyname@lemmy.ca
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            Well he has backed down and some stuff recently because I’m assuming he knows he needs the tech bros to stay in power. They let him control the narrative. If he alienated them, that would be alienating his main ally in his re election campaign.

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        10 hours ago

        Frankly I would love it if something would hurt the credit card industry. The fact that a transactional service charges a % of the transaction itself is insane.

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      Nothing is stopping digital services from doing this right now, much less with a presidential order.

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      12 hours ago

      Spotify sucks ass but it’s Swedish. Their servers probably run on AWS but almost everything runs on AWS. And they are listed on an American stock exchange (through Luxembourg, probably for tax evasion reasons).

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        11 hours ago

        Yeah I didn’t mean to single out Spotify or slander or by implying it was American. I just use so few of those sorts of services and was searching for a second example.

    • Cows Look Like Maps@sh.itjust.worksOPM
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      Regardless of whether it’s possible, that would be untenable. The USA tech bros would lose a ton of money on a giant customer and the rest of the world would boycott even harder, maybe even block american services. Canada’s Shopify alone would be enough of a deterrent.

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        11 hours ago

        You think? Canada is less than 1/10th the us population right? Keeping orange man happy and securing more tax breaks and free tax payer money for some “investment” or whatever would probably smooth that out…

        Other countries backing us up would be nice though and certainly up those numbers…

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    14 hours ago

    Look I am 100% behind Canada on this whole thing, but something tells me we won’t have too much trouble finding alternate sources of fap material.

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      11 hours ago

      The US has been adding more and more digital verification laws which block all porn unless you tell Uncle Sam what you’re up to.

      Digital verification laws are an abomination as is, and no free speech supporter could remotely support them.

      Digital verification could be done anonymously, but there’s no power in that.

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      13 hours ago

      You say that, but Aylo has a pretty big lock on the industry. I honestly didn’t realize they were Canadian.

      I think the only thing saving us right now is that Canada is targeting against maga supporters, and though they use porn more than the rest of us, it’s still a universal product.

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        13 hours ago

        They own like, 6 sites I didn’t know they owned, until that stupid fucking law took place in my shithole state.