You’re mixing up US election results with unrelated things.
Everything is related. US election results both do and don’t affect a lot of things. Washington policy impacts much around the world that you would consider “unrelated”, but at the same time that policy doesn’t really depend on the result of elections as long as the same two parties keep winning because the same permanent security state and foreign policy establishment is still there regardless who is “elected”. Because elections in the US (and in all “liberal democracies”) are a theater for the masses more than anything else. The same capitalist class still pulls the strings. I just have a difficult time understanding why you would go to bat so hard for the racist and very likely senile figurehead currently sitting in the oval office considering under him objectively more people have died and the situation has gotten significantly worse around the world.
So vote for who you want, it won’t make a difference in the outcome except that you are yet again validating the legitimacy of the bourgeoisie’s little shell game they call elections, but don’t insult our intelligence by trying to portray the genocider-in-chief as a “lesser evil”. Many of us are also in vulnerable demographics, a lot of our comrades here are queer or belong to one or another marginalized group, we know the danger of living under a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. But that doesn’t mean we have to fall for their electoral bait and switch over and over again. Fool me once…
yet again validating the legitimacy of the bourgeoisie’s little shell game they call elections
Can you please explain by what causal mechanism low voter turnout on the left makes the US electoral system weaker? I’m confused because the Republicans have been scheming to reduce voter turnout on the left by making it harder for black and poor people to vote. Republicans want you to do exactly what you’re doing. So please explain how doing exactly what the government wants makes the government weaker.
EDIT: 4 hours and you can’t explain it, because it’s not true. You’re full of shit.
It’s not really voter turnout on the left if you turn out to vote for the Democratic party which is an enemy of the left. That’s voter turnout on the right. I am a socialist, why would i condone voting for enemies of socialism? I am an anti-imperialist, why would i condone voting for imperialists? I am anti-war and anti-racist, why would i condone voting for racist warmongers?
You keep missing the point and thinking that Democrats winning is somehow a beneficial or desirable outcome for leftists. It is not.
how doing exactly what the government wants
What the bourgeois government wants is for people to keep voting for either of the two fascist warmonger parties. It doesn’t really matter which of them you vote for because the bourgeoisie wins either way. Just so long as the illusion of democracy is maintained. Just so long as the unrest and frustrations of the masses are channeled into activities which fit within the predefined framework of the system.
Voting for the “lesser evil” is how we got here. It’s how we slide deeper and deeper into fascism.
Everything is related. US election results both do and don’t affect a lot of things. Washington policy impacts much around the world that you would consider “unrelated”, but at the same time that policy doesn’t really depend on the result of elections as long as the same two parties keep winning because the same permanent security state and foreign policy establishment is still there regardless who is “elected”. Because elections in the US (and in all “liberal democracies”) are a theater for the masses more than anything else. The same capitalist class still pulls the strings. I just have a difficult time understanding why you would go to bat so hard for the racist and very likely senile figurehead currently sitting in the oval office considering under him objectively more people have died and the situation has gotten significantly worse around the world.
So vote for who you want, it won’t make a difference in the outcome except that you are yet again validating the legitimacy of the bourgeoisie’s little shell game they call elections, but don’t insult our intelligence by trying to portray the genocider-in-chief as a “lesser evil”. Many of us are also in vulnerable demographics, a lot of our comrades here are queer or belong to one or another marginalized group, we know the danger of living under a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. But that doesn’t mean we have to fall for their electoral bait and switch over and over again. Fool me once…
Can you please explain by what causal mechanism low voter turnout on the left makes the US electoral system weaker? I’m confused because the Republicans have been scheming to reduce voter turnout on the left by making it harder for black and poor people to vote. Republicans want you to do exactly what you’re doing. So please explain how doing exactly what the government wants makes the government weaker.
EDIT: 4 hours and you can’t explain it, because it’s not true. You’re full of shit.
It’s not really voter turnout on the left if you turn out to vote for the Democratic party which is an enemy of the left. That’s voter turnout on the right. I am a socialist, why would i condone voting for enemies of socialism? I am an anti-imperialist, why would i condone voting for imperialists? I am anti-war and anti-racist, why would i condone voting for racist warmongers?
You keep missing the point and thinking that Democrats winning is somehow a beneficial or desirable outcome for leftists. It is not.
What the bourgeois government wants is for people to keep voting for either of the two fascist warmonger parties. It doesn’t really matter which of them you vote for because the bourgeoisie wins either way. Just so long as the illusion of democracy is maintained. Just so long as the unrest and frustrations of the masses are channeled into activities which fit within the predefined framework of the system.
Voting for the “lesser evil” is how we got here. It’s how we slide deeper and deeper into fascism.