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- twoxchromosomes@slrpnk.net
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- twoxchromosomes@slrpnk.net
The Supreme Court said Wednesday it will consider whether to restrict access to a widely used abortion drug — even in states where the procedure is still allowed.
The case concerns the drug mifepristone that — when coupled with another drug — is one of the most common abortion methods in the United States.
The decision means the conservative-leaning court will again wade into the abortion debate after overturning Roe v. Wade last year, altering the landscape of abortion rights nationwide and triggering more than half the states to outlaw or severely restrict the procedure.
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Why has no one argued that rules against abortion infringe on religious liberty? The Bible contains directions for a priest to perform an abortion. In any case, someone could simply claim the law stops them from practicing their chosen faith.
The satanic temple has. Those folks are out there doing the lord’s work, ironically
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Fellow satanist! Or whatever we call ourselves actually 🐐
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The appeals in the two major abortion cases Griswold v. Connecticut and Roe v. Wade were thought by some to have been taken up prematurely. There were a number of cases that came before those that were honing in on the issue from a gender discrimination standpoint. RBG is one who thought the cases were premature. For example, she had successfully argued that a disability benefit law granting survivorship benefits only to widows was illegally discriminatory against men. She had planned to do the same thing in a challenge to an abortion statute, and thought the Court would strike it down on grounds that it forced only women to carry a child to term after which only the woman had a legal duty to raise and care for the child. Before the Court could consider the argument, abortion statutes were struck down on based on penumbral reasoning, privacy grounds.
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Because it’s a dumb line of argument. No one in the process should give a fuck what any religious texts say one way or another and it’s not a can of worms that should be opened just because it might be convenient in this case.
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Yeah bodily autonomy is non-negotiable. This is the government tyranny that we’re theoretically allowed to have guns to prevent.
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Have some sources on this? I’m interested
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Also to protect our marijuana\opium fields and colored LGBTQZN (n stands for non-carbon) genetically augmented catgirl\catboy\catbeing\catthing spouses from government overreach with assault rifles, machine guns, howitzers and MRLS`s.
Ah, well, not everybody is a libertarian.
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Well, we only have one life, so why not. I personally think of women more than of intoxication in that regard.
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Wtf are you talking about? Have you heard of prison? Have you heard of health mandates? Bodily autonomy is not a good argument. Family autonomy is a good argument; legislatures have no legitimate reason to make such highly intimate, family-planning decisions for the public at large or for women only, especially.
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There’s no redeemable legal right to “bodily autonomy.” Abortion was protected by the Constitution only under an implied privacy rubric. I understand what you’re saying and I agree wholeheartedly, it’s just the law doesn’t recognize mere bodily autonomy as something that’s protected. The protections for this stuff are rooted in privacy, due process.
I get flamed everytime I bring this up, but the sovereign has a right to perpetuate itself. In other words, part of the constitutional compact–the trade off between the people the new federation, the consent of the people to give away certain natural law freedoms in exchange for our great experiment in government by the people–is that the federation has a mandate to preserve it’s continued existence.
So, hypothetically, think of the plot of the movie Outbreak: a viral pathogen so deadly and so out of control that the entire country might be deceased within weeks if the spread is not halted, and so the government deploys strategic bombing against its own cities. The Supreme Court has always upheld reasonable, good faith vaccine mandates, quarantines, military drafts, limitations on habeas corpus, travel restrictions, and many many varieties of forced medical procedures, not to mention all the regulatory action on food and drugs, that are certainly less intrusive but potentially no less matter of life and death, such as bans on experimental medication and procedures.
Are not seatbelts and drunk driving laws restrictions on bodily autonomy? I mentioned prison and habeas corpus, but the whole thing there, and especially the Fourth and Eighth Amendments pretty obviously limits bodily autonomy, you know, if you get sentenced to prison, aside from habeas corpus, the right to bodily autonomy is massively limited and virtually everyone is fine with that.
All I’m saying is that bodily autonomy is a crap argument, it’s obviously not something that’s legally sacrosanct, and it’s obviously something that yields to the most mundane of reasons, such as the little kid, seven or eleven years old or something, that was placed under custodial arrest for public urination. I mean if the law allows your right to bodily autonomy to break for public urination, do you ever have a redeemable right of bodily autonomy? How many people lost their bodily autonomy for decades for some weed?
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Your mistake is thinking that this position is one of ignorance. They hate women, plain and simple. It was never about a tumor that happens to turn into a human if you leave it alone long enough.
I love this description. I know some tumors in their thirties+ that never became human. Most of them are conservatives.
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THANK YOU. This is the kind of outrage this deserves. WHAT. THE. FUCK.
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I agree. There are no words in elvish, entish or tongues of men, for this treachery.
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Mifepristone and other abortion drugs aren’t going anywhere. The FDA is being challenged that it didn’t go through its own normal process as it relaxed the rules on prescribing and dispensing them, that’s it. If SCOTUS says that the FDA didn’t then the drugs will remain legal but go back to being somewhat harder to get…until the FDA does follow it’s own rules.
It’s a stupid waste of time but its not the world ending problem that its being made out to be.