• @sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf
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    110 months ago

    Of course he defends it and the weirdos that support him will defend it too. There’s this idea running around that vying for voters is more important than integrity. People keep acting like anything other than Tory is still a thing when the reality is that Tory Light is still Tory. There’s nothing about Starmer, his policies or politics that are inherently left and in fact his brazenness in being so right leaning that as a Labour leader, he can come out and praise Thatcher shows just how much he takes grassroots Labour for granted. I hope Liverpool and the north turn their back on him and Labour. Fuck them and the farce that they are!

    • ThenThreeMore
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      1110 months ago

      Sadly under FPTP it really is just Steamer’s labour or Tories. Unless we can somehow manage a hung parliament and the Lib Dems demand the introduction of proportional representation as their price.

      • @sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf
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        -110 months ago

        I see what you’re going for, but it’s like you didn’t read what I said and tried to take a perceived sentiment and run with it.

        First things first, there’s not a single yardstick by which we can ever call Maggie Thatcher left or even centrist and so the fact that Starmer is praising her, in whatever context or abstraction, puts him firmly on the right.

        Are we saying he’s far right like Farage? No! Like Rees Mog? Not far off but no!

        What I alluded to was that chasing votes without any integrity isn’t a good thing and that I hoped it would backfire because those constituents of Labour seats who have had to endure the fuckeries we’ve been through deserve better than more of the same. We deserve new ideas, new approaches and a government that doesn’t try and hold up Margaret fucking Thatcher as anything other than a fucking evil cow that’s better off dead!

        And I would argue that people like you that try and Red Wash Starmer and his actions are actually at the root of the problem.

    • @ThePyroPython@feddit.uk
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      210 months ago

      Sure mate, we’ll turn our back on the only viable way under First Past The Post to boot the ACTUAL Tories out of office.

      Get of your idealistic high-horse, look around and realise this land, thanks to Murdoch and a deeply entrenched class system, is full of right wingers that’ll NEVER vote in anything more left than Blair, Gordon, and Starmer into power. They just know Sunak is out of ideas and they’re willing to switch sides.

      Diet Tory he may be in rhetoric, but better than the full-sugar Tories rotting away the roots of our institutions and futures to sell to their mates.