So torn. If it was an Israeli bomb, the hospital wouldn’t exist anymore, but at the same time Israel lies about what happens so goddamn much I just assume it was them on principle. I guess we’ll find out soon.
People keep saying this but it’s not true. Here’s a case from 2014 where the consensus is the munition was Israeli, with the eyewitness account of a NBC reporter. The impact was also indirect. The excuse is even the same, they blamed ‘Gaza terrorists’, not Hamas directly. That doesn’t mean its the same this time but it’s not a given that Israeli munitions would simply level the hospital.
People seem to believe that every single bomb/missile that is being launched by the IDF into Gaza is going to be capable of or intended to level entire buildings for some reason…
This is such a weird assumption, but I guess a lot of people don’t understand that military forces use varied munitions depending on target hardness, density, etc.
There’s also a misconception about equating JDAMs with Israeli bombs in a strict sense, where people start to assume every Israeli bomb is a JDAM but thats not true either.
The question is: did Israel change their official stance or did they stay with the original message? If they changed the official stance, after learning new facts, I can see nothing wrong with that.
I have never heard of a Terrorist Organization on the other hand, to suddenly accept the blame for something that cannot get factually disputed anymore, where they put the blame on their enemy before.
So torn. If it was an Israeli bomb, the hospital wouldn’t exist anymore, but at the same time Israel lies about what happens so goddamn much I just assume it was them on principle. I guess we’ll find out soon.
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People keep saying this but it’s not true. Here’s a case from 2014 where the consensus is the munition was Israeli, with the eyewitness account of a NBC reporter. The impact was also indirect. The excuse is even the same, they blamed ‘Gaza terrorists’, not Hamas directly. That doesn’t mean its the same this time but it’s not a given that Israeli munitions would simply level the hospital.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/politics/2014/07/gaza-shifa-hospital-bombing
People seem to believe that every single bomb/missile that is being launched by the IDF into Gaza is going to be capable of or intended to level entire buildings for some reason…
This is such a weird assumption, but I guess a lot of people don’t understand that military forces use varied munitions depending on target hardness, density, etc.
There’s also a misconception about equating JDAMs with Israeli bombs in a strict sense, where people start to assume every Israeli bomb is a JDAM but thats not true either.
https://www.businessinsider.com/israeli-air-force-photos-fighter-aircraft-armed-unguided-weapons-2023-10
Yeah, good point because another crazy post I saw from someone today argued that it WAS a JDAM that hit near the hospital…
There’s a lot of people that seem to think they got their degree in military tactics and munitions from upstairs college this week.
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May have been a small diameter bomb.
Israel uses them in Gaza all the time.
May have been a janky rocket. They get fired from Gaza all the time.
Normally wouldn’t punch a hole like that.
The rockets Hamas builds are basically garbage. It would leave a round hole like that.
That’s not a 250 lb bomb hole
The video footage from Aljazeera shows a rocket, not a bomb
Got a source on that?
That Israel uses small diameter bombe in Gaza? Go to wiki. It’s referenced there. It was designed for that use case.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-10/boeing-sped-1-000-smart-bombs-to-israel-after-the-hamas-attacks
Hamas uses movie scenes, video games, and made up statistics. Why would you believe them over Israel?
tbf, Israel has blamed terrorism before and later it’s emerged that it wasn’t
I think we need to rely on evidence rather than either side’s propaganda
The question is: did Israel change their official stance or did they stay with the original message? If they changed the official stance, after learning new facts, I can see nothing wrong with that.
I have never heard of a Terrorist Organization on the other hand, to suddenly accept the blame for something that cannot get factually disputed anymore, where they put the blame on their enemy before.
I didn’t say I believe hamas, I said I don’t believe Israel.