Climate activist Greta Thunberg has been charged with a public order offense after being arrested at a demonstration against an oil industry conference in London.
I like Greta as much as the next liberal, but ngl, this just isn’t news. Reporting Greta getting arrested is like reporting a pizzeria making another pepperoni pizza.
It’s perhaps the first time she’s actually been charged, and one of the first times using the UK’s new anti-protesting laws and certainly a high profile example. So yes, it is news.
Apparently the charge was related to blocking access to the hotel, which, climate issues aside, I don’t think I can say is entirely unreasonable.
Should a mob of neo-Nazis have the right to block entrance to a synagogue? Probably not, and you cannot add “unless it’s for a good cause” qualifiers to laws like these. I imagine she’ll pay a fine and that’ll be that.
Detained =/= charged. You can be arrested and let go without any charge. Your link doesn’t mention any other charges, just that she was detained 3 times.
I don’t agree with you getting downvoted though, you’ve raised valid questions.
It was a joke in bad taste, I’ll take the downvotes, it’s fine. And I was objectively wrong anyway.
She was charged both times though. The first was in Sweden, where she was given a modest fine. You can’t exactly be levied a fine in court without a charge that you did something wrong first, so it’s implied.
Unfortunately, it’s just more complicated than that. You have to tie your own hands with checks and balances, you can’t give yourself too much power, even if that power could be used for good.
As an example, if we had a Kal El of Krypton in real life, he probably wouldn’t stay Superman forever, he’d eventually be something more like Injustice Superman. This is one of the lessons of history, with men like Marx and Lenin having their work corrupted by others that used the tools they assembled for much uglier purposes.
If there was a way to ensure power couldn’t corrupt, then I’d be fine with surrendering some freedom for security. But there’s actually worse things than death, it’s just not the worst we can do. And climate change won’t kill the planet or anything, it’ll just be another geological extinction event, no different from the dinosaur extinction.
It’s just complicated, and while saving the world is the most important thing in front of us, it needs to be done with our modern, weakened political tools. That requires that we acknowledge other people’s rights to disagree with us, no matter how much it hurts.
I was under the impression she gets arrested very regularly, as that’s very common with non-violent activism, to the point of being planned for. She apparently hasn’t, though, thus this attempt at humor didn’t really land well.
I imagine she’s probably ramping up her protest activities recently.
You’re welcome to stay ignorant without encouraging others to do so. This is a mainstream activist that a lot of people want to hear about and follow. So yeah its gonna get reported on.
A major aspect of non-violent activism is disruption, which frequently comes with arrest. Greta is far from the first environmental activist to be arrested, she won’t be the last.
Ghandi pioneered this. He was arrested too. MLK Jr was actually arrested 29 times in his life. It just means you’re doing a good job of challenging the system, it’s not really out of the ordinary.
I like Greta as much as the next liberal, but ngl, this just isn’t news. Reporting Greta getting arrested is like reporting a pizzeria making another pepperoni pizza.
It’s perhaps the first time she’s actually been charged, and one of the first times using the UK’s new anti-protesting laws and certainly a high profile example. So yes, it is news.
Apparently the charge was related to blocking access to the hotel, which, climate issues aside, I don’t think I can say is entirely unreasonable.
Should a mob of neo-Nazis have the right to block entrance to a synagogue? Probably not, and you cannot add “unless it’s for a good cause” qualifiers to laws like these. I imagine she’ll pay a fine and that’ll be that.
Source? The article does not say any of that.
edit: After not getting an answer for awhile, I looked it up. Greta has been arrested twice now, and detained three times.
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/why-greta-thunberg-arrested-climate-115413261.html
And charged how many times?
Twice.
Detained =/= charged. You can be arrested and let go without any charge. Your link doesn’t mention any other charges, just that she was detained 3 times.
I don’t agree with you getting downvoted though, you’ve raised valid questions.
It was a joke in bad taste, I’ll take the downvotes, it’s fine. And I was objectively wrong anyway.
She was charged both times though. The first was in Sweden, where she was given a modest fine. You can’t exactly be levied a fine in court without a charge that you did something wrong first, so it’s implied.
Climate change is the defining story of our lives. It affects every living thing on the planet. This take encapsulates why liberals are derided.
Every person is free to define the story of their own life, not bow to a requirement to share your values.
Climate change may be our greatest challenge, but no challenge, even extinction, is worth needing to all share the same story.
Your take is why liberal policies still dominate the world. Because freedom does matter very greatly.
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That’s gonna be a block for me dawg.
Try to be civil.
Unfortunately, it’s just more complicated than that. You have to tie your own hands with checks and balances, you can’t give yourself too much power, even if that power could be used for good.
As an example, if we had a Kal El of Krypton in real life, he probably wouldn’t stay Superman forever, he’d eventually be something more like Injustice Superman. This is one of the lessons of history, with men like Marx and Lenin having their work corrupted by others that used the tools they assembled for much uglier purposes.
If there was a way to ensure power couldn’t corrupt, then I’d be fine with surrendering some freedom for security. But there’s actually worse things than death, it’s just not the worst we can do. And climate change won’t kill the planet or anything, it’ll just be another geological extinction event, no different from the dinosaur extinction.
It’s just complicated, and while saving the world is the most important thing in front of us, it needs to be done with our modern, weakened political tools. That requires that we acknowledge other people’s rights to disagree with us, no matter how much it hurts.
What exactly are you trying to say? Why do you think this isn’t news?
I was under the impression she gets arrested very regularly, as that’s very common with non-violent activism, to the point of being planned for. She apparently hasn’t, though, thus this attempt at humor didn’t really land well.
I imagine she’s probably ramping up her protest activities recently.
You’re welcome to stay ignorant without encouraging others to do so. This is a mainstream activist that a lot of people want to hear about and follow. So yeah its gonna get reported on.
A major aspect of non-violent activism is disruption, which frequently comes with arrest. Greta is far from the first environmental activist to be arrested, she won’t be the last.
Ghandi pioneered this. He was arrested too. MLK Jr was actually arrested 29 times in his life. It just means you’re doing a good job of challenging the system, it’s not really out of the ordinary.
edit to clarify