Germany on Tuesday unveiled a fresh support package for Ukraine worth around 1 billion euros ($1.1 billion), its defence ministry said, adding the programme covered air defense, weapons and ground vehicles.
  • Kalash
    4•1 year ago

    Interessting. However reading the original article doesn’t say anything about a legal issue.

    The chancellor basically says that “we’re not allowed” to provide direct offensive assistence because of our duty to German history.

    • @Chup@feddit.deEnglish
      2•1 year ago

      The next sentence with the assumption regarding the German history is made by the article author and not part of Scholz quote.

      I understand ‘we’re not allowed’ completely in a legal way, otherwise he would probably use different and more ambiguous wording.

      It’s just a new thing to me and I never read before that Great Britain and France are directly involved with their cruise missile programming. Germany would have to send troops into the war to program Russian targets and ‘we’re not allowed’. But I’m no lawyer, so I cannot comment what kind of law this would or could break.

      • Kalash
        3•1 year ago

        I understand ‘we’re not allowed’ completely in a legal way, otherwise he would probably use different and more ambiguous wording.

        “Wir dürfen nicht” is very much an ambigous wording in the orignal German. Definitly doesn’t imply that there is a legal issue.

        And it seems there isn’t. In fact, the main legal point here seems to be if providing the weapon can be done by the government or requires a vote from parliament. And it seems it wouldn’t even require the vote.

        This article goes into details behind the decision. (written by lawyer)

    • dumdum666
      -1•1 year ago

      If we WANTED to do it - we would do it. Scholz is just fishing for excuses that don’t make him look bad.

      Example: If Germany goes to war (which by law would only allow a defensive war or since a Supreme Court ruling also UN or NATO wars) our Grundgesetz demands that all elections are suspended until the war is over.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_defence#Extended_electoral_terms

      So have you ever heard of suspended elections because of German war participation somewhere on our world? No? That’s because the wars Germany participated in were being reframed. You can find all wars here (only German):

      https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auslandseinsätze_der_Bundeswehr

      If we really WANT to do it, not even our constitution can stop us.