• @Voyajer@lemmy.world
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        71 year ago

        CS skins are practically pay to lose thinking about it. They make you stand out against the map more.

      • @kadu@lemmy.world
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        -81 year ago

        And you don’t HAVE to go inside a casino, and you don’t HAVE to try a cigarette, and so on. Those are still predatory and addicting things.

        • @Molecular0079@lemmy.world
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          …so is gaming in general. What’s your point?

          My point is that they’re just cosmetic, unlike gacha games or other free to play games where you’re FORCED to buy loot boxes to unlock good weapons and items.

          A casino REQUIRES you to spend money in order to participate. CS2 does not. Big difference.

            • @Molecular0079@lemmy.world
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              81 year ago

              That’s how it works on most games

              Not really. A bunch of F2P games have lootboxes that give you a chance at better weapons / characters early on instead of going through a long grind. The set of CS weapons is the same and does not change.

              The community gets upset when it becomes pay-to-win. I wouldn’t consider CS to be pay-to-win though so I find the casino comparison a bit inaccurate.

              • @kadu@lemmy.world
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                01 year ago

                It’s not pay to win. But I never argued it was, so I’m not sure why you’re debating this point as if I were.

                The third party market for skins, with systems designed to literally be a casino, was not only allowed but encouraged on CS as it did make a lot of money.

                • @Molecular0079@lemmy.world
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                  11 year ago

                  But I never argued it was

                  You’re the one who brought up the idea that the game is a casino. A casino is pay-to-win, because you literally have to pay money to participate and having more money gives you advantages.

                  This is not what CS is. You don’t have to pay money to participate and there are no upgrades weapons or characters as a result of paying more money.

                  • @kadu@lemmy.world
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                    01 year ago

                    you’re the one who brought up the idea the game is a casino

                    Something about paying for loot boxes hoping to get a highly valued and rare item to sell for profit might have something to do with it… I’m not sure…

                    A casino is pay-to-win

                    A casino is pure gambling, there’s no parallel game attached to it, the “games” are the gambling bit. Videogames incorporate gambling as a side activity to a main game. This is not a new argument or something I must defend, quite literally everyone understands how a gacha MMO or loot box FPS works.

                    This is not what CS is

                    It might surprise you, but people understand what CS is. You know, a popular game that has been played for literally over a decade.

                    Once again, you keep repeating “MoNey GiVeS yOu AdzvantaGes” but that isn’t my point, was not my point, and is irrelevant to my point. I’m talking about addictive gambling, I’m not talking about selling pay to win advantages.

    • @aluminium@lemmy.world
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      01 year ago

      Same is true for many other games that get shit for their Microtransactions. But Valve is on the “good guy” site, so rules don’t apply the same.