• @BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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    81 year ago

    Who are we going to need to fight against right now that would require significant ammunition stocks?

    Clearly Russia can’t do jack shit to anyone else right now, they’re far too busy even just trying to hold the small chunk of Ukraine they invaded.

    Do we think China is going to take this opportunity to invade a NATO ally?

    • NaibofTabr
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      31 year ago

      Do we think China is going to take this opportunity to invade a NATO ally?

      Possibly Taiwan, especially if they think the US is overextended and unwilling to invest in another conflict.

      • @BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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        61 year ago

        Taiwan is not a NATO ally, only the US has said they are going to get involved. Also the US clearly isn’t overextended given that they have no troops at all in Ukraine. It wouldn’t be a war of bullets and artillery either, it’s going to be ships and aircraft and missiles. None of which are committed to Ukraine.

          • @zephyreks@lemmy.mlOPM
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            -91 year ago

            People always harp about Chinese airplanes flying in (as the US has established) international airspace. Prior to American FONOPs in the region, China stayed on their “side” of the strait and Taiwan stayed on their “side,” and they would request entry as expected of sovereign airspace. After American FONOPs (which make the strait international waters and thus the air above it international airspace), China no longer requests entry because there’s no requirement to announce entry of international airspace. Really makes you think, doesn’t it?

            The status quo circa 2016 was going to lead to a peaceful balance. Not necessarily reunification, but definitely economic and cultural co-dependence. Since then, relations have deteriorated significantly.

            • NaibofTabr
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              151 year ago

              This is intentionally provocative and aggressive. All of these actions occurred in the span of 1 year, Mar 2022-Mar 2023. This is what military aggression looks like. To deny that is disingenuous.

              • @zephyreks@lemmy.mlOPM
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                Three supposed incursions into territorial waters by unmanned aircraft (supposed, because judging by how they plotted it looks like they discretized movements and just linearly interpolated).

                Flying in international airspace is neither provocative nor aggressive. Flying in sovereign airspace is. That’s literally been the American position justifying their incursions into the SCS. Frankly, they’re not wrong. If the area is international, they are entirely within their rights to sail through it or fly through it. Whether that area is international is up to debate, but under the claim that it is (which Taiwan has not challenged), these operations are entirely legal and entirely justified, just like American FONOPs through the strait are entirely legal and entirely justified and neither provocative nor aggressive.

          • @OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
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            -141 year ago

            Oh god… theyre getting ready for the PLA to swim to Taiwan… oh fuck

            ^^^ the seriousness which those links deserve

            • NaibofTabr
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              131 year ago

              Ah yes, simply dismiss any sources that say things that you don’t like. Brilliant strategy, not transparent at all.

              And where are your sources which support your point of view?

              • @OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
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                Your sources are great, if you wanted to support the claim that western media is saber rattling around China. They do a great job of framing stuff like “China flies jets in Chinese airspace” as aggressive moves on China’s part.

        • Ooops
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          01 year ago

          Same reason Russia did it. The allmighty leader gets older and wants to see it happen before he dies as some stupid form of legacy.

          • @OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
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            Except China has a vibrant democracy with a 95 percent approval rating, Xi isn’t that old, and Russia is a nakedly corrupt bourgeois “democracy”, sure

            Or literally any historical analysis as opposed to marvel movie understandings of politics

            • @zephyreks@lemmy.mlOPM
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              01 year ago

              “Approval ratings” are rather nebulous. By the divisive and partisan nature of American politics, approval ratings in America are naturally going to be low because both parties exist solely to shit on each other. In China, “approval ratings” get measured from the perspective of “is my life improving?” rather than “would my life be improving more under someone else?”

              Honestly? I think asking if someone’s life has improved is a more fair polling question to ask, but it’s one that’s difficult to differentiate in the US because of how radicalized everyone is.

              Basically, what I’m saying is that the US would have a higher effective approval rating in the Chinese context than it does today, because many American lives ARE improving under the American government. People just think (often incorrectly) that it would improve more if the other party had power.

              • @OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
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                -11 year ago

                In China, “approval ratings” get measured from the perspective of “is my life improving?” rather than “would my life be improving more under someone else?”

                Wow, an actual useful metric for whether the government is responsive to the populations needs.

                Basically, what I’m saying is that the US would have a higher effective approval rating in the Chinese context than it does today, because many American lives ARE improving under the American government.

                Except for life expectancy reductions, child malnutrition, literacy rate reductions, etc

            • SaltySalamander
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              01 year ago

              Except China has a vibrant democracy with a 95 percent approval rating

              Fucking LOL

    • @freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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      It’s been less than a week and I’m here to let you know that this comment has aged poorly. The counter-offensive is over. Ukraine has made no significant progress, meanwhile Russia has gained ground.