If you need to guilt people into following your belief, you either lack the strength of conviction it takes to convince someone to listen to you, or your belief is complete shit.
there are many meat eaters with ethical concerns who feel guilty. Then there comes a day when they choose not to feel bad anymore about what they eat. while eating healthier, i should add. Vegetarianism is default in so few societies and the transformation takes time. You don’t wake up vegetarian or vegan one day. You ask questions. You read. You’re exposed to the living and dying conditions of suffering animals.
if you eat industrial meat and don’t feel guilty, you are either uninformed or you’re a cruel careless person.
On the one hand, factory farming seems inhumane. Treating animals like a product will inevitably end up as abuse because lower standards for health and wellness makes a cheaper product. Consumers vote with their wallets, and if there is not a noticable drop in quality, they will buy the cheaper product, as the price is the main thing they can see and measure when making a purchasing decision.
On the otherhand, most things in this world that get eaten die screaming while being consumed asshole first after running as fast as they can for a few seconds.
At the end of the day, I still eat meat, but I wish there was a better way to inform the consumer of the quality of life of the animals in the products they purchase. Maybe an independent review board that sets wellness standards that each meat supplier has to post on their packaging.
Every study not funded by the meat or dairy industries has found similar results.
And it makes sense, logically. Eating plants directly is always going to be more efficient than feeding plants to an animal and then eating the animal - the average animal converts about ten percent of its food into biomass, so you lose roughly 90% of the plant’s nutritive value.
“We feed animals the plants humans can’t eat” and other such excuses work for a small farm where the chickens and pigs are part of the farm’s ecosystem and return nutrition to the soil as manure. When you’re talking about modern factory farming where millions of productive acres that could grow human food are used to grow animal food, it’s nothing but bullshit.
If you need to guilt people into following your belief, you either lack the strength of conviction it takes to convince someone to listen to you, or your belief is complete shit.
If seeing the reality of your meal makes you feel guilty, maybe the messenger is not the problem.
If you have to anthropomorphize your argument to make someone feel guilty then your argument isn’t persuasive in the first place is it?
No one on the meat eating side “feels guilty,”…even after reading this obvious strawman post …that’s some serious projection on your part.
there are many meat eaters with ethical concerns who feel guilty. Then there comes a day when they choose not to feel bad anymore about what they eat. while eating healthier, i should add. Vegetarianism is default in so few societies and the transformation takes time. You don’t wake up vegetarian or vegan one day. You ask questions. You read. You’re exposed to the living and dying conditions of suffering animals.
if you eat industrial meat and don’t feel guilty, you are either uninformed or you’re a cruel careless person.
Aww so cute he learn a logical fallacy. Too bad he used the wrong one keep trying there bucko!
On the one hand, factory farming seems inhumane. Treating animals like a product will inevitably end up as abuse because lower standards for health and wellness makes a cheaper product. Consumers vote with their wallets, and if there is not a noticable drop in quality, they will buy the cheaper product, as the price is the main thing they can see and measure when making a purchasing decision.
On the otherhand, most things in this world that get eaten die screaming while being consumed asshole first after running as fast as they can for a few seconds.
At the end of the day, I still eat meat, but I wish there was a better way to inform the consumer of the quality of life of the animals in the products they purchase. Maybe an independent review board that sets wellness standards that each meat supplier has to post on their packaging.
Ever notice how despite criticizing the meat industry no one has been able to show how we can feed everyone without animal proteins?
Not a single vegan solution out there that scales to numbers that matter.
This study found that if we converted US farmland used to grow livestock to plant proteins we could double the number of people fed.
Every study not funded by the meat or dairy industries has found similar results.
And it makes sense, logically. Eating plants directly is always going to be more efficient than feeding plants to an animal and then eating the animal - the average animal converts about ten percent of its food into biomass, so you lose roughly 90% of the plant’s nutritive value.
“We feed animals the plants humans can’t eat” and other such excuses work for a small farm where the chickens and pigs are part of the farm’s ecosystem and return nutrition to the soil as manure. When you’re talking about modern factory farming where millions of productive acres that could grow human food are used to grow animal food, it’s nothing but bullshit.
👆 this is false