The Trump Organization is trying to determine the sweep of Tuesday’s ruling that Donald Trump is liable for fraud and what it means for the future of the former president’s namesake business, his attorneys say.

At a pre-trial hearing Wednesday, Trump attorneys said they didn’t know to which part of the company the ruling applied and were starting to work out what may need to be dissolved to comply with the judge’s surprise decision.

Officials from New York Attorney General Letitia James’ office also said they needed more time to go through the order.

The fraud case “changed significantly since yesterday,” New York Judge Arthur Engoron said in court Wednesday, referring to his stunning ruling where he found Trump and his adult sons liable for fraud and canceled the Trump Organization’s business certification.

  • @FUCKRedditMods@lemm.ee
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    close to half of the people in the US voted for him

    This is legitimately enough to say “pack it in.” The american experiment has failed and failed fucking fantastically.

    Edit: guys I get it, it’s not half of the country. It IS roughly half of the people who voted though, which is what fucking matters

    • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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      Would be if it was a true measure but with the low voter participation and him getting less than 50% of what few people voted, he never got more than 21% of the total population to vote for him. That means that over three quarters of Americans have never voted for him and probably never will.

      That he got that far with so little of the population voting for him (18% when he “won” in 2016) says a LOT about how undemocratic the system is, though…

      • @hitmyspot@aussie.zone
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        Whatever way you do the figures, he was elected once and nearly elected a second time. He’s the most likely candidate for a third term and it’s neck and neck. People choosing not to vote is just as big a problem when one of the candidates is this terrible for the world.

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          He was APPOINTED once. Elected is when you get more votes than the other candidates.

          People choosing not to vote

          You mean politicians from both parties alienating prospective voters by representing rich people and their corporations many times more than regular people, being staunchly pro-cop and laughing at the very notion of common sense policies that most of the population wants?

          While Biden is by far the lesser evil, him and the other neoliberals are still very much an evil, complicit in the rise of fascists like Trump because they never do enough to resist them or represent and help the poor people who have been fooled by Trump pretending to care about them.

          And that’s not even mentioning all the voter suppression the Dems make pretty speeches against but hardly ever do anything to actually stop it.

            • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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              An indirect election is one thing, but the EC isn’t democratic. Not even close.

              And voter “apathy” (more like resignation) is mostly a problem because, with very few center-left exceptions, the major parties only cater to the rich and others with right wing policy positions.

              To have nobody who represents you faithfully in Congress or the white House is de facto disenfranchisement, not apathy or laziness.

              • @hitmyspot@aussie.zone
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                11 year ago

                In the most recent election, as it was an election, trump nearly won. That’s apathy, not resignation.

                None of the candidates in the republican side can get support over trump. Again, apathy. I’m no saying they are good candidates, but a bucket of vomit would be better than a narcissist who steers the country towards civil war and fascism, only caring about his own enrichment.

                • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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                  There are myriad possible reasons for people not voting, including but not limited to

                  1. Voter suppression makes it extremely difficult to impossible for many, especially in the states and districts that Trump won. Voter suppression that the Dems keep promising to do something about.

                  2. The disenfranchisement through lack of faithful representation I mentioned

                  3. Having no energy left after working grueling hours on election day

                  4. Going to college in a state that only allows permanent residents to vote and being unable to return to your hometown for election day

                  But you just automatically assume that it’s the only one that’s completely unquantifiable and absolves yourself and your favourite politicians from all responsibility.

                  That’s very convenient, don’t you think?

                  • @hitmyspot@aussie.zone
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                    Not at all, but while all of those reasons can and should be addressed, the vast majority of people not voting are choosing not to for other reasons. It’s not inability it’s lack of will. The reason one side is trying to stifle the voice of the other by gerrymandering and making registration difficult is because votes matter. Yet many people choose not to vote as they think their vote doesn’t make a difference. It’s apathy more than barriers.

                    Too tired to vote is not a real reason. There is postal voting in many states. Despite postal voting in some states, and states without the type of problems you cite, voter turnout is still low. It’s a big problem.

                    You’re complaining about disenfranchised voters while downvoring comments you don’t agree with. I assume the irony is lost on you.

                    I don’t care about Internet points. The whole system on Lemmy is to make posts more visible. You’re choosing to stifle conversation.

    • 🐱TheCat
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      except its not true and you should fact check things you read on the internet before condemning an entire country