• Em Adespoton
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    112 hours ago

    Weird that you think voting third party will accomplish that.

    Although I’d argue that now is definitely the time to vote third party locally, and independent for senate.

    Once the Big Two lose their dominance in those two areas, it will be time to target congress. Then once that’s done and legislative reform is in place, it will be time to target the executive and judiciary.

    • تحريرها كلها ممكنOP
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      55 minutes ago

      Weird that you think voting third party will accomplish that.

      I honestly do. Especially if the Democrats lose, they will learn that genocide costs votes.

    • @dontgooglefinderscult
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      612 hours ago

      I said it has the highest chance of accomplishing that. Not that it will without others also breaking out of the duopoly.

      Neither main party will ever even pause support for Israel, both candidates have made that clear. Therefore there is no chance of them stopping the genocide or even reducing American involvement. In fact both have eagerly fought over who would aide this genocide more.

      Therefore the only possible chance is voting third party or advocate for things against Lemmy’s tos.

      • Em Adespoton
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        012 hours ago

        Or… take a longer view and follow the strategy I outlined.

        The Palestine/Israel situation didn’t just start this election cycle; voting third party isn’t going to fix it, or even help the victims at all — in fact, it will likely harm them. But strategically voting over the next four cycles or so could go a long way to improving not just that issue, but many others.

        • تحريرها كلها ممكنOP
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          152 minutes ago

          strategically voting over the next four cycles

          The wild thing is that you are being serious, unless we return strategically to its Greek root and create a people’s army to solve the problem

        • @dontgooglefinderscult
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          712 hours ago

          Also just to point out, your solution requires 16 years. At the current rate Palestinians will be wiped out of the region by 2026.

        • @dontgooglefinderscult
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          Yeah that’s cute, you started out correct. Then you used moon logic to assume no one ever did that or thought of doing that.

          You people have been advocating that since the parties hyper normalized, guess what, it hasnt worked out.

          So no. That’s not a thing that works. Strategic voting, lesser evil ism has resulted in both political parties openly advocating for genocide. It has not worked. It did not work in the Weimar Republic, it did not work in England in response to Hitler, its not worked so far here, and it’s not going to.

          • Em Adespoton
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            -211 hours ago

            I’d be interested to know what sort of “you people” you think I am.

            The problem is, the only thing worse than tweaking a strategy that’s never worked in the past and expecting change is choosing a new strategy that logically will never work, by design, and expecting change.

            Look at history and tell me what was needed to stop the governments of the most powerful nations from supporting genocide overseas.