• switchboard_pete
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    4414 hours ago

    anybody on the left withholding their vote at this point fundamentally disbelieves in a system with exactly two discrete options, so this type of post doesn’t persuade anybody

    • @14th_cylon@lemm.ee
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      12 hours ago

      fundamentally disbelieves in a system with exactly two discrete options

      except the polls are exactly about two discrete options. “not believing” in it is like not believing in gravity. it doesn’t make you philosopher, it makes you dumb moron.

        • OpenStars
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          112 minutes ago

          Tbf, the Democratic party nomination process is not a 2-party system. They did say that back then, and they were wrong to do so - hoping that people wouldn’t notice that difference.

          But now we are talking about the real deal, the thing that they were trying to falsely tie an equivalence to, the actual vote for the actual presidency. Democracy in the USA may not last the decade regardless, but voting one way is for ditching it in favor of Project 2025 and among other things, ironically enough even moar-er support for genocide, while the other is a vote for hopefully a little better than the current status quo.

          Both offer short term pain and long term destruction… but not equally so.

      • @kautau@lemmy.world
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        68 hours ago

        Yeah I don’t “believe” our system best serves the common good. But I sure as hell will vote for Kamala because it’s very clear that is my best course of action to serve the common good. Voting for a third party won’t lead to a system where more parties have a voice, it will help Trump get into power, where only a single party has a voice, and any other voice will be silenced

          • @basmati@lemmus.org
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            -48 hours ago

            Believing in something and believing something exists or is a certain state are two very different things.

            You can believe that this despotic duopoly exists in such a way that there are only two outcomes, without believing such a system will ever function.