With membership at new lows and no electoral wins to their name, it’s time for the Greens to ditch the malignant narcissist who’s presided over its decline.
And in “tell Us Something we Didn’t Already Know” news.
Yes that was hyperbolic, I see these posts on my feed on a daily basis, and it’s filled with dozens of rehashed comments bickering about the validity of third parties. It’s getting far more attention here than it deserves when there are tons of actual, real political issues in the world.
I’ll be the first to say that I hate both major parties, but I have the political literacy to understand that the way to fix it is not by voting for someone with questionable ties to Russia that seems to pop up out of nowhere every four years.
If you guys actually cared to solve the issues you’d be campaigning to first and foremost get electoral reform to make third parties even remotely viable instead of trying to work within this extremely broken, barely democratic system. You’d also be doing work at a local level where real change can be made to movement rather than just throwing a candidate out for president every election. You won’t do that though because you’re all a bunch of weird idealists with fantastical views of how politics work. I’m interested in following news thats grounded in reality
I’m not one of “those guys” advocating specific 3rd party candidates. Sadly, none of the current choices are viable.
I’m just pointing out your overreaction, which is just as much of a distraction from the REAL issues you pretend to care about.
actually cared to solve the issues
Yeah, because mentioning 3rd parties means that you don’t care about anything else at all. What a galaxy brained take 🙄
campaigning to to first and foremost get electoral reform to make third parties even remotely viable instead of trying to work within this extremely broken, barely democratic system.
That’s exactly what I’m doing, depending on how wide your definition of “campaigning” is. Just because I correct your hysteria doesn’t mean that you have to create a strawman of me that totes loves Jill Stein or whatever 🙄
You’d also be doing work at a local politics where real change can be made
In my case, “local” is part of Denmark, a country with a much better election system. Doesn’t mean that I can’t have knowledge and opinions about US politics and the kinds of absolutist “us or them” language that bears some of the responsibility for the duopoly surviving in spite of what the vast majority of the population wants.
Also, just FYI: assuming that everyone is able to be active in local politics beyond online discussions reeks of privilege and ableism.
rather than just throwing a candidate out for president every election
Again lumping me in with a group to which I don’t belong.
You won’t do that though because you’re all a bunch of weird idealists with fantastical views of how politics work
Aaand again. Are you going for some kind of record in strawmen and jumping to conclusions? Because if so, you’re doing an excellent job so far.
I’m interested in following news thats grounded in reality
Me too. I’m also interested in discussing the news using language grounded in reality, rather than weird hyperbole making a small minority out to be a dominant force and tormentor ruining everything.
As much as I’m tempted, I’m not interested in getting to a debate with you about this. For someone mad about me ‘jumping to conclusions’ you sure made a whole lot of assumptions about me that aren’t really true.
Whether my rant was directed at you, or one of the handful of other Jill Stein nutjobs on here doesn’t really matter, I’ve said my piece.
For someone mad about me ‘jumping to conclusions’ you sure made a whole lot of assumptions about me that aren’t really true.
Which ones specifically? I did you the courtesy of being specific about how and where you were wrong about me. If you’re gonna go “no you!”, it would behoove you to do the same rather than being as vague as a teenager posting on Facebook on a bad day.
Whether my rant was directed at you, or one of the handful of other Jill Stein nutjobs
I specifically informed you that I don’t consider any of the third party candidates viable and have not said anything to the contrary to indicate that I support Stein in any way. I don’t, for the record.
I’m not interested in getting to a debate with you about this.
Because you don’t have any counterarguments. You just lie, misrepresent, and demand that everyone believes you. Which seems to be working in this case since it’s taking place in a pro-DNC echo chamber almost half as tribalist as the fascist ones.
This has to be some kind of chatgpt essay blend. How are you able to write so much based on so little? All your comments are like walls of text responses to like one liners. I just don’t get it. How? How do y’all have so much time on your hands???
I like to be thorough and exact when refuting misinformation. The point by point format helps me organize my thoughts better and also makes it more clear to the reader what exactly I’m talking about.
That you see this and think LLM says more about your own sloppiness than it does about my format choices and tendency towards verbosity.
When I have something important to say, I choose my words and format differently than for jokes or casual conversation.
If I don’t, I end up having to take much LONGER over several comments to clarify when someone inevitably misunderstands due to my being too vague.
I remember a convo we had a while back. I don’t mean to psychoanalyze but I recall all your responses being filled with very loaded language kinda how you’re doing here.
It’s obvious the person you are responding to in this thread is not particularly keen on the convo but you come at them very charged. I don’t know, maybe don’t take it so personal. I get that they lumped you in with a group you probably don’t identify with but it’s not worth the battle. Just my 2 € thoughts. All this online debate only leads to misery.
Yeah, you’re probably right about that. Getting personally offended and worked up by whatever imprecise to false statements I read, including ones with no malice intended, IS a thing I’m trying to do less.
I grew up with undiagnosed ADHD, so not being understood or people not making an effort to understand and make themselves understood is a major trigger for me because it used to happen so much to me and I’ve had to work so hard to get better at it.
That’s mostly a ME issue that I need to be better at taking down several notches, though. Thanks for pointing it out in a good way rather than wielding it like a cudgel that I would then overreact to as well 😄❤️
That’s such a ridiculous claim that I bothered to count.
There’s been 4 posts about anything regarding 3rd parties out of 31 in the last 24h and that’s much MORE than usual!
Sounds like you’re just hypersensitive about being reminded that the two party duopoly is only ALMOST complete 🙄
Yes that was hyperbolic, I see these posts on my feed on a daily basis, and it’s filled with dozens of rehashed comments bickering about the validity of third parties. It’s getting far more attention here than it deserves when there are tons of actual, real political issues in the world.
I’ll be the first to say that I hate both major parties, but I have the political literacy to understand that the way to fix it is not by voting for someone with questionable ties to Russia that seems to pop up out of nowhere every four years.
If you guys actually cared to solve the issues you’d be campaigning to first and foremost get electoral reform to make third parties even remotely viable instead of trying to work within this extremely broken, barely democratic system. You’d also be doing work at a local level where real change can be made to movement rather than just throwing a candidate out for president every election. You won’t do that though because you’re all a bunch of weird idealists with fantastical views of how politics work. I’m interested in following news thats grounded in reality
I’m not one of “those guys” advocating specific 3rd party candidates. Sadly, none of the current choices are viable.
I’m just pointing out your overreaction, which is just as much of a distraction from the REAL issues you pretend to care about.
Yeah, because mentioning 3rd parties means that you don’t care about anything else at all. What a galaxy brained take 🙄
That’s exactly what I’m doing, depending on how wide your definition of “campaigning” is. Just because I correct your hysteria doesn’t mean that you have to create a strawman of me that totes loves Jill Stein or whatever 🙄
In my case, “local” is part of Denmark, a country with a much better election system. Doesn’t mean that I can’t have knowledge and opinions about US politics and the kinds of absolutist “us or them” language that bears some of the responsibility for the duopoly surviving in spite of what the vast majority of the population wants.
Also, just FYI: assuming that everyone is able to be active in local politics beyond online discussions reeks of privilege and ableism.
Again lumping me in with a group to which I don’t belong.
Aaand again. Are you going for some kind of record in strawmen and jumping to conclusions? Because if so, you’re doing an excellent job so far.
Me too. I’m also interested in discussing the news using language grounded in reality, rather than weird hyperbole making a small minority out to be a dominant force and tormentor ruining everything.
As much as I’m tempted, I’m not interested in getting to a debate with you about this. For someone mad about me ‘jumping to conclusions’ you sure made a whole lot of assumptions about me that aren’t really true.
Whether my rant was directed at you, or one of the handful of other Jill Stein nutjobs on here doesn’t really matter, I’ve said my piece.
Have a great day.
Which ones specifically? I did you the courtesy of being specific about how and where you were wrong about me. If you’re gonna go “no you!”, it would behoove you to do the same rather than being as vague as a teenager posting on Facebook on a bad day.
I specifically informed you that I don’t consider any of the third party candidates viable and have not said anything to the contrary to indicate that I support Stein in any way. I don’t, for the record.
Because you don’t have any counterarguments. You just lie, misrepresent, and demand that everyone believes you. Which seems to be working in this case since it’s taking place in a pro-DNC echo chamber almost half as tribalist as the fascist ones.
Now I have too. Have the day you deserve.
This has to be some kind of chatgpt essay blend. How are you able to write so much based on so little? All your comments are like walls of text responses to like one liners. I just don’t get it. How? How do y’all have so much time on your hands???
I like to be thorough and exact when refuting misinformation. The point by point format helps me organize my thoughts better and also makes it more clear to the reader what exactly I’m talking about.
That you see this and think LLM says more about your own sloppiness than it does about my format choices and tendency towards verbosity.
When I have something important to say, I choose my words and format differently than for jokes or casual conversation.
If I don’t, I end up having to take much LONGER over several comments to clarify when someone inevitably misunderstands due to my being too vague.
I remember a convo we had a while back. I don’t mean to psychoanalyze but I recall all your responses being filled with very loaded language kinda how you’re doing here.
It’s obvious the person you are responding to in this thread is not particularly keen on the convo but you come at them very charged. I don’t know, maybe don’t take it so personal. I get that they lumped you in with a group you probably don’t identify with but it’s not worth the battle. Just my 2 € thoughts. All this online debate only leads to misery.
Yeah, you’re probably right about that. Getting personally offended and worked up by whatever imprecise to false statements I read, including ones with no malice intended, IS a thing I’m trying to do less.
I grew up with undiagnosed ADHD, so not being understood or people not making an effort to understand and make themselves understood is a major trigger for me because it used to happen so much to me and I’ve had to work so hard to get better at it.
That’s mostly a ME issue that I need to be better at taking down several notches, though. Thanks for pointing it out in a good way rather than wielding it like a cudgel that I would then overreact to as well 😄❤️